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re: Malaysian Airliner with 295 people on board shot down by SAM missle

Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16164 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:16 pm to
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if you have nothing to hide WHY IN THE frick do you need a strapped military guy guarding wreckage


Oh, I don't know.

Maybe for the same reason big, strapping guys guard every air crash site in the US?

Maybe things like preserving the scene, giving victims some respect, and keeping scumbag looters out?
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24835 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:17 pm to
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How does that close the "whoops" factor? If they thought it was a different plane, there's still a "whoops".


I think he means it closes the whoops factor of the "slip of the finger on the trigger" theory.
Posted by ClaireCleary
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
480 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:17 pm to
Russian media doing finger pointing

quote:

Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:18 pm to
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This Ukrainian official on cnn sounds like they have evidence of these guys talking about shooting this plane down over cell phone, etc.

If true, there it is.
We'll see if they do indeed have that



I am not a conspiracy theorist, but honestly the fact they magically have this ready and are going public tells me it smells like bullshite.

It very well may have been shot down by Rebels, but I seriously doubt Russia was telling them or even encouraging them to do so.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:18 pm to
We used to watch RT america at my last unit and laugh our asses off.

Reports now that the rebels are not letting investigators on scene to do their job.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:18 pm to
starting to think that the MH370 was shot down the same way and was covered up.
Posted by Crimson
Member since Jan 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
This whole thing smells like a Gleiwitz - especially with the new Putin details just coming out.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Russian media doing finger pointing


Propaganda machine
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88006 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
Fair enough. Didn't realize that theory was out there. Everything I've seen through skimming has been pro-russian rebels, on purpose, thought it was a cargo plane.

My issue with that mostly has to do with how the frick could they differentiate between cargo and passenger from 33k feet? Obviously, they couldn't, but why take that chance?
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
Interfax is doing work with this story. They are breaking every bit of news.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16164 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Nothing will be gained from studying data on the black boxes.


You could actually learn an awful lot. The CVR would be particularly useful - they may have even seen the missile and said something. Even the data recorder could give a lot of info on what systems failed.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Fox just reported that the Russian News "RT" just said that the targeted plane was actually Putin's


I'm sure a government controlled news organization wasn't influenced by the current regime at all.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40863 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:20 pm to
This Noah Sneider journalist on the ground said locals saw explosion in the sky as well. Whatever that means
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Reports now that the rebels are not letting investigators on scene to do their job.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Finally some reason and experience closing the "whoops" factor.
It was an accident in the sense of "mistaken identity" you fricking wacko.

Do you really believe that anyone (besides North Korea) would purposely shoot down a commercial airliner for shits and giggles?

For fricks sake.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:25 pm to
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This Noah Sneider journalist on the ground said locals saw explosion in the sky as well. Whatever that means


he also said from the looks of the debris, they'll never know what caused it

guy doesn't seem to know anything about plane crashes/investigations
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:26 pm to
I seriously hope someone else was just watching MSNBC.

They had a caller, and all he said was "Well, you're a dumb arse, aren't ya?"
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16265 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Putin's plane overlapped MH17 flight route less than hour before - report


LINK
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Putin's plane overlapped MH17 flight route less than hour before - report


RT News doing what RT does.

Why the frick would Putin fly over Ukraine.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40863 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:28 pm to
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he also said from the looks of the debris, they'll never know what caused it


Ya but I didn't care about that detail anyways
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