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re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:47 pm to RFK
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:47 pm to RFK
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California politicians caused this, frankly. Florida has more forest area and hardly has any wildfires. It’s because they maintain their forests and have controlled burns annually. California stopped controlled burns around the 80s due to environmental concerns. Now every fire they have gets out of hand.
This isn’t true. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains and Cal Fire is constantly doing controlled burns. The issue is that it no longer rains in Southern California. The narrative that the California is mismanaging everything is just not true in this case. Montana and Idaho have had major fires recently - are they mismanaging their forests?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:48 pm to RFK
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Florida has more forest area and hardly has any wildfires. It’s because they maintain their forests and have controlled burns annually.
Probably more has to do with the humidity and proximity to two major water basins.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:50 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Looting has begun
Trash people.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
Being reported that the Bert is now spreading as well
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:56 pm to everytrueson
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It’s getting scary here in the LA area. Say some prayers all. It’s basically a fire hurricane.
Prayers for you all. Supposedly winds are supposed to pick up in a few mins till about 5 am. They are all over and running out of resources while embers are catching homes on fire every moment.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:57 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:58 pm to John Barron
Fire is now yards away from Santa Monica

Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:59 pm to everytrueson
One of my clients was in Pacific Palisades. Had to evacuate to Hawthorne to try to get charter out of there.... there is a TFR over all of LA down to Long Beach.
Is this going to be the worst fire disaster in history?
Is this going to be the worst fire disaster in history?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:00 am to SkiUtah420
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:01 am to ChiSaint
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This isn’t true. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains and Cal Fire is constantly doing controlled burns. The issue is that it no longer rains in Southern California. The narrative that the California is mismanaging everything is just not true in this case.
Yeah, the mismanagement line has become a talking point and is being used as a political weapon to beat opponents with. In the past, it was much more an issue. Now, a lot of effort and funding goes into the prescribed burning.
To your point about lack of rain/drought being a major issue currently. It isn't really. There is no significant drought right now in SoCal. It is dry, abnormally dry in places, but it is more seasonally dry than the droughts of recent years. A major contributor to this is what finally broke the long drought in the area......a wet Fall into Winter and an average to above average Spring. That greened everything up and lead to significant new growth. When the normal dry season rolled around, all of the new green vegetation naturally dried out and became a massive amount of new fuel.
That's both the blessing and the curse when an extended drought like the area faced finally breaks, and this has been an ongoing concern this fire season.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:01 am to SkiUtah420
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Is this going to be the worst fire disaster in history?
Please God, I hope not. This is literally hell on Earth for those people. God hep them.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:01 am to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:09 am to John Barron
OP I think this has exceeded major brush fire level at this point.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:11 am to WylieTiger
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I have a client that lives in Pacific Palisades. I hope they are ok. Beautiful area
One of my favorite neighborhoods in the L.A. area along with Santa Monica.
No one should wish L.A. burns just because it's Cali. That would be like them wishing we'd get a direct Cat 5 hit every year.
Hoping and praying for the best but doesn't look promising tonight. The video of the dozer pushing and crushing late model, expensive abandoned cars off the road to clear it was surreal.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:11 am to SkiUtah420
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Is this going to be the worst fire disaster in history?
No. That would be the Peshtigo fire.
LINK
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The fire burned about 1.2 million acres (490,000 ha) and is the deadliest wildfire in recorded history,[1] with the number of deaths estimated between 1,500[1] and 2,500.[2] The exact number of deaths is debated. Data from mass graves, both those already exhumed and those still being discovered, show that the death toll of the blaze was most likely greater than the 1889 Johnstown flood[3] death toll of 2,200 people or more.[4]
The Great Chicago Fire, the same day as the Peshtigo fire interestingly, destroyed 17,000 buildings and left 100,000 people homeless.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 12:16 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I bet Biden gives financial support for this while people in North Carolina have been waiting forever.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:13 am to SkiUtah420
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this going to be the worst fire disaster in history?
Largest? No
Deadliest? Maybe
Most property damage? Likely
We are less than 12 hours in and it already looks like literal hell. Sadly there is nothing you can do to stop 80-100 mph winds.
Barring an act of God these people are fricked.
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