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re: Major Louisiana Flood Event
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:45 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:45 pm to HubbaBubba
damn
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:00 pm to HubbaBubba
You should be okay going forward...


Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:33 am to slackster
Isn't it supposed to rain the next couple of days?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:55 am to Walt OReilly
Thursday into Saturday. Won't be like last week but in some areas it will just make it worse.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:13 am to jorconalx
I've never seen it, so I don't think it's there.
We do a little duck hunting there, good bit of deer and rabbit. Rabbit is a gold mine. Lease from the corp is dirt cheap.
My dad took the boat over there yesterday to check on the bikes (we leave 3 4-wheelers there under a little tin shed). He texted me this:

We do a little duck hunting there, good bit of deer and rabbit. Rabbit is a gold mine. Lease from the corp is dirt cheap.
My dad took the boat over there yesterday to check on the bikes (we leave 3 4-wheelers there under a little tin shed). He texted me this:
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 7:14 am
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:49 am to HubbaBubba
Sorry to see that. I hope it goes down. Any updated pics?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:50 am to ibldprplgld
More rain on the way, more concerning is there might be a more significant event in the 7+ day range


Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:14 am to rds dc
Hopefully the existing water has a chance to drain before more comes.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:19 am to ibldprplgld
Red River still rising in areas


Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:24 am to rds dc
Just guessing, when do you think it'll be back open?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:47 am to rds dc
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:27 pm to slackster
First, I'll admit that I'm not entirely knowledgeable about all the pieces here, but I feel like the Sabine River authority should have to answer some questions about the flooding of the lower Sabine. It's my understanding that they opened the gates in the Toledo bend dam to capacity and essentially released all of the water down the Sabine at once - resulting in a large amount of water heading down stream at once.
Couldnt there have been a slower release of water that would have prevented the flooding of the interstate? I'm sure there would have been some issues in the Toledo bend area, but you wouldn't be shutting down a major cross country interstate.
Couldnt there have been a slower release of water that would have prevented the flooding of the interstate? I'm sure there would have been some issues in the Toledo bend area, but you wouldn't be shutting down a major cross country interstate.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:40 pm to lsufishnhunt
From what I understand, they didn't really have a choice. Toledo Bend is not a flood control structure and when it gets above 172' the gates open. They were opened slowly at first but the reservoir still reached the highest it ever has in history.
That being said, I understand your point and I'm sure they'll take some heat. All they have to do is point to the possibility of the entire dam failing if they held back too much and the catastrophe that would have ensued and that should be enough. It would wipe every town to the south off the map.
That being said, I understand your point and I'm sure they'll take some heat. All they have to do is point to the possibility of the entire dam failing if they held back too much and the catastrophe that would have ensued and that should be enough. It would wipe every town to the south off the map.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:47 pm to slackster
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All they have to do is point to the possibility of the entire dam failing if they held back too much and the catastrophe that would have ensued and that should be enough
True. Forgot about that. Couldn't risk losing the dam, makes sense.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:50 pm to lsufishnhunt
From the Sabine River Authority:
From 3/10/16:
quote:
Toledo Bend Reservoir is not a flood control reservoir and reaches full pool at 172.0 feet msl. The integrity of the dam is intact and is operating as designed. According to estimates of the National Weather Service River Forecast Center, Toledo Bend Reservoir received approximately 250,000 cfs at the peak of the rain event (1.8 million gallons per second - gps). Using the Spillway Gate Operation, the reservoir released 207,000 cfs (1.5 million gps) at the peak and was able to hold 43,000 cfs (300,000 gps) in the reservoir during the flood event.
From 3/10/16:
quote:
Toledo Bend Reservoir, operated by the Sabine River Authority of Texas and the Sabine River Authority, State of Louisiana reached a record level high of 174.36 feet mean sea level (msl) at 6:00 a.m. this morning due to the rainfall event. The current gauge reading is 174.20 feet msl at 3:00 p.m. today. Toledo Bend Reservoir is not a flood control reservoir and reaches full pool at 172.0 feet msl. Spillway gate releases, which protect the integrity of the dam, have reached a record of 207,644 cubic feet per second (cfs) which is 90,000 cfs over the previous record set in 1989. Currently 9 gates are open 22 feet and 1 generator is running 24 hours/day. There is no truth to the rumors that the Toledo Bend dam could break due to the record releases. The integrity of the dam is intact and is operating as designed.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:53 pm to lsufishnhunt
It wasn't just Toledo Bend draining south it was numerous other lakes and reservoirs as well which contributed to the high water levels.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:57 pm to slackster
Simply amazing that they were able to move that kind of water so quickly. It'll be interesting to see if they develop some sort of maximum flow regs following this event. Obviously this whole situation is an extreme outlier and hopefully we'll never see this again - but there should at least by some new investigation into how the water should be released in the future.
Not necessarily trying to knock on the SRA as they obviously did what they felt was needed, just curious if it can be improved.
Not necessarily trying to knock on the SRA as they obviously did what they felt was needed, just curious if it can be improved.
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