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re: Luigi Mangione, 26, apprehended in Altoona, PA about UnitedHealthcare CEO murder

Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44888 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
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I expected something more well written and deeper. That’s more of a simple confession clearly written after the murder than a manifesto. Calling it a manifesto is disingenuous.


Agree. Not much to it
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:43 pm to
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Can someone explain why he is charged with 2nd degree murder and not 1st? Makes zero sense to me but I am not a lawyer. 2nd degree is like shooting while robbing a bank or something, 1st is premeditated (much like a frickkng assassination is).
Every state is different. I think 1st degree in New York requires an intentional killing with the addition of one of several specific aggravating factors. My best guess, without researching NY law, is that none of the aggravating factors are present or they are waiting for certain evidence related to an aggravation factor before charging him with first.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4205 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:44 pm to
Taken from someone else, "to be an american in 2024 is to realize you appreciate a brief and concise shooter manifesto"
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26924 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.
makes the situation even worse...of course it is complex...it is not just insurance companies but doctors, and hospitals, and pharma companies, etc...it's all tied together...you killing this man senselessly isn't going to fix anything...
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:46 pm to
Btw, X put Luigi’s Twitter feed back up.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Hey pal, vandalize their building, burn yourself to death in front of their HQ...but to kill a man and father in cold blood....you are a loser and will rot in jail...


Doesn't even send close to the same message.

I'm not saying he's right, but no one cares if you graffiti their building.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29202 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:54 pm to
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I mean, he’s got a three digit IQ and everyone is looking for someone dressed just like him, so yeah.


Again…you’re trying to rationalize someone who is crazy.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:59 pm to
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Calling it a manifesto is disingenuous.

They were in a time crunch. They needed a manifesto quick, fast, and in a hurry. Plus, it is the holiday season. The best manifesto writers are on vacation, and you can't trust anyone working from home these days.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:59 pm to
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you killing this man senselessly isn't going to fix anything...


...and yet:

quote:

“We realized, based on all the feedback we’ve been receiving the last 24 hours, that our communication about the policy was unclear, which is why we’re pulling back,” Janey Kiryluik, staff vice president for corporate communications, is quoted as saying.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:00 pm to
Make sure you read the edit. I explained my reasoning.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26924 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:04 pm to
Eventually, no one's gonna care about this guy either… Except now, he's gonna be spending the rest of his life in prison
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7715 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:12 pm to
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Eventually, no one's gonna care about this guy either… Except now, he's gonna be spending the rest of his life in prison
Maybe some interest will be renewed in 15-20 years when a netflix (or whatever platform exists then) mini series is made about him.
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:12 pm to
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Eventually, no one's gonna care about this guy either… Except now, he's gonna be spending the rest of his life in prison


Sure, but that's true for 99.99999% of everyone on a long enough timeline.

There's another side to this that I don't think ya'll are understanding fully. People are frustrated and tired of hearing the same old empty words.
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:19 pm to
Needs to pluck those eyebrows before they turn into Anthony Davis.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29202 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:22 pm to
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Maybe some interest will be renewed in 15-20 years when a netflix (or whatever platform exists then) mini series is made about him.




And college kids will want the guy freed from prison
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29202 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:22 pm to
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Vincenzo Pantangelli


You the killer’s uncle?
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:26 pm to
And yet you still don't understand how insurance works. The policy BCBS proposed is already applies to Medicare health insurance policies. Wanna know why? Its a MEDICARE RULE intended to prevent over billing by anesthesiologists. BCBS was simply applying it to its commercial policies.

So, AGAIN... this is a CMS rule that already applies to insurance sold on the Medicare markets.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:26 pm to
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quote:Vincenzo Pantangelli You the killer’s uncle?


Bada bing bada boom.
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