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re: LSUNurse, loooking for answers for what can be wrong with my 2 year old

Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:20 pm to
Nevermind that came out wrong
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Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
38669 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:20 pm to
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It's called the terrible 2s for a reason. All kids do this


My 3 children and present day 2yr old grandson have never acted like this, may have a physical or mental issue. GL with your child!!!!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:21 pm to
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I'm taking him tomorrow and mentioning the possible seizures, and tubes.
Would the tubes cause seizures?



I'd assume any infection from placement of the tubes or a reaction to the material the tubes are made out of could cause some big issues if not treated.

Seizures can be caused by a whole host of things and need to definitely be evaluated by an neurologist.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:21 pm to
If the child developed a deeper infection in the ears it is possible that it can spread to the brain. This could/would be considered meningitis, unless there were a brain abscess then that might be primary diagnosis. Please take him tomorrow and please keep us posted. I will keep you in my prayers.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:22 pm to
How often does he have his episodes?
Posted by ALLin4LSU
Member since Oct 2016
1419 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:22 pm to
I'm not a medical professional but as a parent of a child with epilepsy I also thought about seizures.

My experience is with a child who was diagnosed at an older age than most kids, and who was aware that something was happening, which isn't the norm.

Standing still for 45 minutes is nothing we've ever experienced but "blanking out" for short periods of time makes me think he needs to be tested. My son has ADHD and for awhile we thought he was spacing out because of that. Once a seizure was induced, and I was watching it, I could tell the difference. His eyes went completely blank and you could have thrown something directly at his face and he wouldn't have flinched. He was "nobody's home" during those periods.

I would find the best pediatric neurologist in your area and take him there. The diagnosis was quick. I don't know the procedure for diagnosing a 2 year old but for my son she induced a seizure through hyperventilation and confirmed it through a sleep deprived EEG.

I wish you luck.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11392 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:33 pm to
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Exactly. I need to watch out for my family. My family comes first. And i will NOT let my little girl be in any harm in the future. He is full of anger, and then he's as happy as can be. I'm praying, and hoping we get answers from specialists. But, if things can't change, then I can't handle him/issues. His real parents are the ones to blame. Did drugs thru pregnancy, and had him taken away because they didn't take care of him. There are tons of foster parents in our area that take in kids with health problems. Some people can handle it, others can't. If he does have problems, he would be better off with someone who is good in that area or have patience.


This is the your answer. Someone in my family and his wife adopted a set of twins. The mom did drugs while pregnant. Both kids have always been badly behaved and very "off". They aren't autistic, and the couple who is raising them are great parents. Even now the twins are in 6th grade and they just don't have social skills, don't listen, and have anger problems.

The foster child sounds like this is the case with him and it's very sad. He needs a good home and good parents, but you have to be up to the challenge and it's not just a "phase" like some replies are saying. I completely understand if you aren't up for it, but the most fulfilling things in life are the most difficult ones.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:42 pm to


It's how it starts.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:42 pm to
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And as I said...this is all new and just started happening a month ago. The agency doesn't believe us and hasn't stepped in. They see him once a month. So they haven't seen him act like this


Tough position for you and your fam, bud. Definitely have my sympathy.

Start taping his episodes to show the agency.

Is there any family history or pregnancy history that y'all can get ahold of?

It could be any number of things:
1. Normal hellion
2. Aspergers/Autism spectrum
3. Absence seizures
4. Developmental delay
5. Psych issue like regression
6. Other random/rare neurological condition

Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6066 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:47 pm to
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CatsGoneWild



Please get medical advice from someone who has at least a 4 year degree
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Posted by hawaiiantiger
KANEOHE, HI
Member since Jan 2010
365 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:48 pm to
I see this all the time in my practice.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:17 pm to
Just wondering how many posters that are critical of the OP are primary caregivers of special need kids?

As a parent of a special needs kid I understand the OPs fear and have no problem with his concerns and decision not to adopt the kid.

That is a big choice to take on.

Taking care of a special needs child takes over your life and its difficult.

If you aren't ready to change your life to revolve around that then he is better off with someone who has made that choice.
Posted by Roovelroe
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:22 pm to
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. All kids do this


My four say no they dont
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:32 pm to
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I see this all the time in my practice.


I'm hooked.....what else can you tell us?
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3696 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:07 pm to
Sir, as a 19 year psych nurse I responded to your OP briefly yesterday. I have read on here that several nurses believe he may be in fact having seizures. Here is what I think possibly could be happening:

Yes it could definitely be a seizure, more than likely what is known as a Complex Partial Seizure. Especially with the "fits" and "tantrum-like behavior" your child is having. These are classic. The 45 minute staring or "blank" periods are at the far end of the time period but is definitely possible. BTW, an ear infection could be an issue here or perhaps the child fell and had a bad head bump but you didn't know it happened. Our youngest child had the same thing but her seizures were of the tonic-clonic kind and nothing like this, but they were caused, per the neurologist, by a fall she had.

Second, the fact that the birth mother had been doing drugs while the child was in vitro is very worrisome. So many children I have worked with have had this history and it breaks my heart. Many have become autistic, have extreme impulse-control issues, serious cognitive problems, etc.

In either case, of which neither may be correct, you need to get this child to a neurologist and adamantly "insist" on a complete workout. Unless the cause of these symptoms is found and treated he will more than likely continue to have these issues unless it miraculously spontaneously resolves itself.

I wish you peace and comfort in these times and btw, don't listen to these clowns who shame you for having second thoughts on adoption. Even though I work with these kids there is no way I could ever take one home. 36 hours is all I have in me. It takes a special person/family to deal with this and 99% of them don't have it. God Bless.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167350 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:32 pm to
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Akron children's hospital

Good hospital. What did the doctor that referred him to the childrens hospital say?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167350 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:38 pm to
Is Tods Childrens hospital closer in Youngstown for you?
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Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167350 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:43 pm to
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You mentioned ear infections and tubes. My concern is the possibility of a deeper infection affecting the brain. As crazy as I am, I would take him to an ER and raise all kinds of hell!!! I'm assuming he is covered by a type of Medicaid for health care since he is in the foster care system. Sorry to say, bad roads or not, you need to take him to an ER. If you can't do it, call 911 to come get you and the child. This is very concerning to me.

I agree. If you tell an ER about his staring into space they have to run tests- admit him or they could evac him to Tods childrens or Akron Childrens.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:20 pm to
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Posted by Peazey on 1/5/17 at 4:17 pm to The Tom Arnold
By even fostering a child he and his family have done more than most even think of doing. Criticizing him shows such a lack of a grip on reality that I can't understand an actual adult having. I hope all works out for him.



Yep
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Posted by dimet
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2009
207 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:58 pm to
Look into his family history. Abuse, neglect, isolation can all lead to this behavior. This behavior may not be your normal but it seems to be your child's normal. Have him evaluated by a behavior therapist and see what the results are. I applaud you for your willingness to foster a child...brave, kind, and respected. Finally, do as much reading as you can on the spectrum child. Very literal, very patterned, very detailed in their world which reflects their behavior. Raising your voice causes anxiety and they are anxious enough. Prayers to you and your wife!
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