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re: LSU student dies after trying to save boy from rip current in Florida
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:23 am to jchamil
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:23 am to jchamil
I wonder why the hero usually dies during these? If they swim against the beach line shouldn't they be okay too? I haven't seen it so just wondering why it's common.
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:44 am to Byrdybyrd05
Rip currents are very dangerous, even for the strongest of swimmers. Flotation device is absolutely necessary or best just to go about shin deep and get out.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:48 am to TigersSEC2010
quote:I don't think heros ever think about their selves in situations like that. I know these guys were young, but they were kids, they were real MEN!
As horrible as it sounds, 9/10 the rescuer dies in these situations. If you decide to intervene, you better accept it may be your last act.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:49 am to Gatorbait2008
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I wonder why the hero usually dies during these? If they swim against the beach line shouldn't they be okay too? I haven't seen it so just wondering why it's common.
They get worn out while the person they're rescuing is panicking and fighting them.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:50 am to go_tigres
quote:Man, frick that
As a father to a soon to be 21 yo son, if this were to happen to my child, under these exact circumstances, I’d be proud of my boy and rest easy knowing he went valiantly.
That sounds good on a message board, but id rather my son be a "coward" on the beach and be here to get married, start a family, and live to old age
The kid was brave, but there is nothing romantic about death. Simply someone lost. I cant imagine being his parents right now
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 8:51 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:53 am to supadave3
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Did you get your wife’s permission to save a drowning child? I hope you got that slip signed.
What a dumb take.
Since you clearly suck at picking up details that aren't explicitly spelled out, I have my own children to worry about. This may shock you, but my kids are more important to me than someone else's.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:55 am to TDTOM
As I understand it, this photo is backwards.
The water coming in is the red lines... the water going out is the green lines. All lines the arrows are reversed.
The water pushing up to the shore is unbroken... the water where the breaks are appears that way because the undercurrent is cutting the wave off as it is trying to come into shore, thus causing the wave crash.
Principle is the same, just the depiction is backwards.
ETA: I could be wrong, but that's the way I've learned it over the years.
The water coming in is the red lines... the water going out is the green lines. All lines the arrows are reversed.
The water pushing up to the shore is unbroken... the water where the breaks are appears that way because the undercurrent is cutting the wave off as it is trying to come into shore, thus causing the wave crash.
Principle is the same, just the depiction is backwards.
ETA: I could be wrong, but that's the way I've learned it over the years.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:57 am to Byrdybyrd05
Lay on your back and float. If pulled under go dead weight. Also learn the side swimming stroke. Uses 3/4 the energy as free style. Simple things you can teach and or do
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:00 am to EA6B
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Present day research has shown that if you simply tread water the current will make a 180 degree turn bringing you back to the shore in some minutes. Without this knowledge people panic thinking the tide is going to carry them out to sea.
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“Most rip currents are part of a closed circuit, says Robert Anthony Dalrymple, a coastal engineer and rip current scientist at Johns Hopkins University. If you ride a rip current long enough – float along with it – you will usually be taken back to shore by a diffuse, weaker return flow.”
We just need a PSA campaign to convince all of the midwestern pasty fatasses a rip current is just God's lazy river.
Because, truly, that's all it really is.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:08 am to Gatorbait2008
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I wonder why the hero usually dies during these?
when the hero gets to the panicking person, the panicking person tries to climb on top of the hero, thus pushing the hero under and assuring they drown.
That's why the dude in the other thread said the Kiwi lifeguards say bring a brick.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:16 pm to Rhino5
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Rip currents are very dangerous, even for the strongest of swimmers. Flotation device is absolutely necessary or best just to go about shin deep and get out.
Don’t even need a float bc you can float without any effort in salt water. Barely have to tread water and you’ll still bob up and down with the waves. That’s all you need to do if caught in a rip. When it’s over you can swim parallel back to shore as the ocean pushes you back towards it.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
Joe Delaney
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:24 am to Geauxtro
You owe it to yourself and especially your kids to learn how to float on your back. I practice that all the time and try and beat it in my daughters head to float on her back in any scenario where she feels uncomfortable in the water.
I even practice floating with my hands together behind my back kind of simulating my hands being tied together. I’m not a Strong swimmer but I know I always can float.
I even practice floating with my hands together behind my back kind of simulating my hands being tied together. I’m not a Strong swimmer but I know I always can float.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 5:37 am to Byrdybyrd05
This happens every year. It's terrible. So sorry for those families.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:22 am to diat150
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I’m not a Strong swimmer but I know I always can float
I learned to float when I was taking lessons as a kid. But if you’re in a rip current or similar, the water is likely too rough to use that without getting pummeled. At least that’s been my experience.
But it’s useful if you’re in a pond or pool I guess.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:25 am to tigerinthebueche
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learned to float when I was taking lessons as a kid. But if you’re in a rip current or similar, the water is likely too rough to use that without getting pummeled. At least that’s been my experience.
But it’s useful if you’re in a pond or pool I guess.
Floating on the back is easy and you don’t have to use as much energy to get air but it’s just as easy to dead man float.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:35 pm to lsupride87
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I watched rip currents in New Zealand 10x stronger than anything here, and 8 year olds surfing would fall off their board, get caught in it, let it take them peacefully out to sea, then they would swim back to shore once the current ended.
The scariest ocean currents I've ever seen were in the Tasman Sea off of the west coast of New Zealand. I really wanted to go swimming but only went wading (near Greymouth on the South Island) because the undertow was tremendous. Even wading was dangerous but I was young and invincible.
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