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re: LSU Greeks: Details About Acacia Allegations [Exclusive]

Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:29 am to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:29 am to
I actually know only one person that's in a frat and he happens to be a close friend. I remember him growing apart from the rest of us as friends while he was a part of the Greek system and basically disappeared for a while. It sucked because it's not like he had a falling out with anyone, they just consumed almost all of his free time.

Eventually he reconnected with all of us again, but I never understood the reasoning behind what appeared to be an effort on the part of the frat to persuade him to dump us. And I know for a fact they did this, and this is one of the better known frats at LSU.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:36 am to
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LOL Damn dude, what an analysis... that's some high brow liberal logic right there.



Ah yes, the over simplification of a differing opinion into that of an arbitrarily opposing political view. You associate me with a party that is largely unpopular with the majority of this board in the attempt to shame me. All the while you give no basis for your argument.

Spend a little more time in the real world buddy.

Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:47 am to
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1. Does the university have a clear, written policy on hazing? (I did Google but the link on LSU's webpage has been broken for at least three days.)If so, what is the policy?

2. Were the members of Acacia aware of what the policy is?

3. If there is a clearly defined policy, was it followed?

4. Is the national office of Acacia claiming all policies were followed or are they distancing themselves to minimize possible civil damages?


Absolutely there is a clear written policy on hazing. Sanders goes around to each house every year to go over it and all other rules to all actives. They also have the pledge meeting like the second week of school to go over the hazing rules with all the pledges.

The policy basically says everything is hazing. We used to always joke about the rule of "disturbing someone's air quality" saying you can't even fart around a pledge without it being considered hazing.


I never went through anything like what is described by this guy. Mostly all I had to do were chores around the house, and then "hell week" was really just fun.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 7:48 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40339 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Posted by Oates Mustache
I actually know only one person that's in a frat and he happens to be a close friend. I remember him growing apart from the rest of us as friends while he was a part of the Greek system and basically disappeared for a while. It sucked because it's not like he had a falling out with anyone, they just consumed almost all of his free time.

Eventually he reconnected with all of us again, but I never understood the reasoning behind what appeared to be an effort on the part of the frat to persuade him to dump us. And I know for a fact they did this, and this is one of the better known frats at LSU.



Dude people grow apart and do other shite in college. It is not some plot against you
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46829 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:52 am to
Thanks. Your link worked. The policies are pretty clearly defined with the exception of a lot of ", But not limited to." Any form of hazing is clearly prohibited.

I think it is a bad policy to shut down a house before any investigation has begun. It is punishment before any transgressions have been clearly identified, or proven.

Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:54 am to
I understand that. He admitted it after reconnecting with us that they actively persuaded him that frat friends > regular friends. I'm not suggesting that they all do this.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:58 am to
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I think it is a bad policy to shut down a house before any investigation has begun. It is punishment before any transgressions have been clearly identified, or proven.


It is. For some reason though the national media has a vendetta against Greek organizations, so when something like this happens it seems like the organization will never get a fair investigation. School just tries to cut bait and move on without negative publicity.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:02 am to
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I understand that. He admitted it after reconnecting with us that they actively persuaded him that frat friends > regular friends. I'm not suggesting that they all do this.
No one ever tried to limit my friendships during pledgeship. You said it already; it takes up a lot of your time. And someone else said that we all aren't plotting against GDI's... In fact, they weren't even a blip on most of our radar screens.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46829 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:02 am to
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The real question is why non-greeks are so concerned about and interested in what greeks are doing. It's just none of your business.


You don't play football for LSU. Sorry you can no longer watch it.

You are not a farmer. Are you going to miss eating?

You do not own this website so you can no longer post here, nor be in charge of what others post about.

Some of your posts are entertaining and well thought out. I will miss you.



Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:03 am to
That was just dumb
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16133 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:04 am to
I read these allegations and keep thinking "Who would do any of this to be in Acacia?"

Back in the 80's and early 90's, they were big but that's about all. They didn't have a reputation and were certainly not a New Orleans/Northshore fraternity. I had friends in many other fraternities but can't say I even knew the name of one Acacia. Even their neighbors the Delts had more personality. For their size, Acacia was pretty invisible.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46829 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:05 am to
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That was just dumb


I agree
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:09 am to
at fraternities thinking they're hardcore.


The whole greek system would shite itself if they knew about our hazing rituals in the Skull and Bones when I was at Yale.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:10 am to
quote:


You don't play football for LSU. Sorry you can no longer watch it.

You are not a farmer. Are you going to miss eating?

You do not own this website so you can no longer post here, nor be in charge of what others post about.

Some of your posts are entertaining and well thought out. I will miss you


what the heck are you talking about ?

the only thing that makes sense is the comment about my posts being entertaining and well thought out.

a fraternity is a PRIVATE 'club', what is done there is their business and their business alone. they're not playing sports for other's entertainment or growing food to sell.

the question remains unanswered. why do some non-greeks care so much about what greeks are doing, wearing, going, and saying?
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:12 am to
You thinking this...

quote:

Even their neighbors the Delts had more personality


Explains why you think this...

quote:

They were certainly not a New Orleans/Northshore fraternity.


You have no clue. Both statements are false.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:12 am to
Hazing starts off mild, then gets progressively worse. By Hell Week, pledges will endure anything because they have invested so much blood, sweat and tears. Plus they are delirious from sleep and food deprivation.

This kid betrayed his brothers.
Posted by CanShakersDecayedNut
Member since Sep 2006
3154 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:13 am to
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They didn't have a reputation and were certainly not a New Orleans/Northshore fraternity


pretty much all it was in the late 80s and early 90s
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60662 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:15 am to
That's what it is (well, was) today.
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13166 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:16 am to
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BobABooey

Nailed it.

Girls who hung out with us didn't mention them or even mention other friends hanging with them.

As other posters have said, these hazing activities do cross the line.

Sure, there are mind games and house cleanup work details and the like, but you should never put a prospective brother in a situation, or pressure him to do something, that a true gentleman would not do.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
6221 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:22 am to
Frats are for pussies anyway....frick you frat boy...
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