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re: LSU faculty president upset students get to decide where their money goes
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:20 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:20 am to TigerBait1127
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This is not a budget cut issue
I don't think too many are arguing that it is a budget cut issue. It's just the idea of raising money off of the students through fee bill charges for something this trivial when there are better places this money can go. I know the students voted on it, but it's still not the brightest decision. When I was a student and they had a vote to get my bar tab put on my fee bill, I would have probably voted for it. Doesn't mean it was a good decision. As I would have gotten a little older and realized what was important, I would have said, "you know what, probably should have done something smarter with that money".
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:21 am to TRMM
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Who foots the bill when pumps break down, when it needs to be cleaned seasonally, or when it's time for resurfacing?
The same people paying for it, the students.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:21 am to Fububutsy
If the students are anything like when I was there, a short 5 years ago, then frick no I don't want them deciding.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:23 am to Fububutsy
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you don't think that it might help in convincing an 18-year-old to go there?
I really don't think it's that big of a factor. If a student is reading articles about how the university is going bankrupt, I doubt a pool is going to help.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:24 am to KG6
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I don't think too many are arguing that it is a budget cut issue. It's just the idea of raising money off of the students through fee bill charges for something this trivial when there are better places this money can go. I know the students voted on it, but it's still not the brightest decision. When I was a student and they had a vote to get my bar tab put on my fee bill, I would have probably voted for it. Doesn't mean it was a good decision. As I would have gotten a little older and realized what was important, I would have said, "you know what, probably should have done something smarter with that money".
The LSU UREC had to be expanded and renovated. It was in pathetic shape and overcrowded.
People wanted an outdoor pool as part of those plans. They just happened to make it in the shape of LSU
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:27 am to TigerBait1127
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The LSU UREC had to be expanded and renovated. It was in pathetic shape and overcrowded.
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It was in pathetic shape and overcrowded
Do you know how many educational buildings on campus share this same description? I just feel they are a little more important.
The rec is a nice thing to have. I just think people are over-estimating it's importance to the university.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:30 am to KG6
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Do you know how many educational buildings on campus share this same description? I just feel they are a little more important.
Are you aware of how many new buildings and improvements LSU has put up lately or is planning on putting up?
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The rec is a nice thing to have. I just think people are over-estimating it's importance to the university.
I spent about as much time at the REC as I did any building on campus. These funds were raised specifically for this. I wouldn't want the school telling the AD how to spend their TAF funded money either
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:36 am to TigerBait1127
I don't mean to necessarily come off as we should steal the money from this account and put it towards the university. Just saying overall that it is a dumb decision.
YOU spent that much time at the rec. In my entire time at LSU, I spent maybe 5 hours there. It's not important to everyone. And you would have gotten on fine without it most likely. I'm not trying to take away from how nice it is to have, and I understand you can't take that money away since it was appropriated for that. I just think people should realize what's important in life. We can do things to make that LSU diploma much more impressive to employers and colleagues. Improving the Rec is not something that's going to help out with that.
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I spent about as much time at the REC as I did any building on campus. These funds were raised specifically for this.
YOU spent that much time at the rec. In my entire time at LSU, I spent maybe 5 hours there. It's not important to everyone. And you would have gotten on fine without it most likely. I'm not trying to take away from how nice it is to have, and I understand you can't take that money away since it was appropriated for that. I just think people should realize what's important in life. We can do things to make that LSU diploma much more impressive to employers and colleagues. Improving the Rec is not something that's going to help out with that.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:38 am to KG6
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YOU spent that much time at the rec. In my entire time at LSU, I spent maybe 5 hours there. It's not important to everyone
Right, but it is overcrowded, which shows demand. It is easily one of the most used facilities at LSU. Right now, there is, on average, 4.1 sq feet per person in the building.
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I just think people should realize what's important in life.
Health and social life are certainly up there.
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We can do things to make that LSU diploma much more impressive to employers and colleagues. Improving the Rec is not something that's going to help out with that.
This is a false dilemma, it isn't either/or
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:41 am to TigerBait1127
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it isn't either/or
It is when there are limited funds.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:41 am to KG6
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It is when there are limited funds.
This was voted on for this specific reason. It is not taking funds from anywhere else. The students who will use it are paying for it with UREC fee increases
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:43 am to TigerBait1127
I'm not saying limited funds as in limited funds in the budget. There are limited funds in the pockets of students who have to pay for their education.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:46 am to KG6
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There are limited funds in the pockets of students who have to pay for there education.
which is why this was voted on by the students. It is a student life facility.
Students chose to spend their money on this. It is not your job to decide what they should deem important.
And physical health is important whether you want to admit it or not.
Also, that doesn't really go with what you were replying to
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We can do things to make that LSU diploma much more impressive to employers and colleagues. Improving the Rec is not something that's going to help out with that.
So what should these students be spending money their money on?
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:48 am to When in Rome
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There's a little rendering of it. At least our logo's font is conducive for a pool with relatively thick, straight lines. Imagine if it was in script.
Smart. Not an ounce of shade anywhere, just like Blue Bayou.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:50 am to TigerBait1127
That rec center was down right god awful. It's available for everybody, undergads, grad students, and profs. Hopefully it gets expanded. It's not like academic building aren't being updated, a new chemistry building was built right as I left.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:51 am to Fububutsy
Sorry for Partying?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:51 am to TigerBait1127
And it was voted on in a very "democrat" type of way. Using money that really has no effect on the student. What would I like to spend my parent's or "student loan that I have no understanding of what it's like to pay off" money on???? Hmmmmmm, a kick arse pool! I remember nearly pulling the trigger on a net gun when I had some extra money left over after paying tuition! I was a freaking moron just 5 years ago when I was a student 
Physical health may be important, but there is a lap pool that satisfies student swimming needs already. And I don't think it's really the university's main priority to worry about the physical health. Not saying it's not important, but it's not nearly the most important.
The library is horrific, I remember sweating through my clothes in Lockett due to thermostats not working in the summer, I took history classes in desks from 1960 with the windows open to keep cool, I lived in a dorm that was so disgusting that I paid nearly a semesters worth of living expenses in fines just to move out. That's not even touching on getting quality instructors. I graduated in engineering. I had two or three GREAT professors. I would be all for paying 100k to those people (some of these people truly turned the way I approached school around and I feel I'm much more successful because of it). If we use finances properly to fix those issues and hire the right people, the university will flourish. We can tighten up the acceptance standards and those kids with the high GPA's and ACT scores will want to come to LSU, because the degree will be respected.
Physical health may be important, but there is a lap pool that satisfies student swimming needs already. And I don't think it's really the university's main priority to worry about the physical health. Not saying it's not important, but it's not nearly the most important.
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So what should these students be spending money their money on?
The library is horrific, I remember sweating through my clothes in Lockett due to thermostats not working in the summer, I took history classes in desks from 1960 with the windows open to keep cool, I lived in a dorm that was so disgusting that I paid nearly a semesters worth of living expenses in fines just to move out. That's not even touching on getting quality instructors. I graduated in engineering. I had two or three GREAT professors. I would be all for paying 100k to those people (some of these people truly turned the way I approached school around and I feel I'm much more successful because of it). If we use finances properly to fix those issues and hire the right people, the university will flourish. We can tighten up the acceptance standards and those kids with the high GPA's and ACT scores will want to come to LSU, because the degree will be respected.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:53 am to nerd guy
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. Hopefully it gets expanded.
I was on campus a few weeks ago and it is already under construction.
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It's not like academic building aren't being updated, a new chemistry building was built right as I left.
Also a fairly new Biology building and Business college. Their building a new Engineering college too. There was also another building near the dairy store being built too
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:55 am to KG6
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What would I like to spend my parent's or "student loan that I have no understanding of what it's like to pay off" money on???? Hmmmmmm, a kick arse pool!
That isn't what they voted on, but that is apparently to hard of a point for you to get. Also, how does student loan money have zero impact on a student?
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, but there is a lap pool that satisfies student swimming needs already
Non-operational a good bit of the time and long waits actually.
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t's really the university's main priority to worry about the physical health. Not saying it's not important, but it's not nearly the most important.
Which is why this is a student thing and separate from the university budget. Jesus
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:57 am to Fububutsy
It is incredibly stupid and wasteful.
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