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re: Louisiana Tops Mississippi as the worst state according to Politico

Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:18 pm to
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It's because some people see a certain race and assume they will just be poor and uneducated.



But is it really race? Or just a "type of people".

People like to push "race" as some homogenous thing, when really it's other factors that just happen to largely coincide with a subclass.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11182 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Try living in a rural area with white trash meth heads about.



Yeah, they suck. You do have to keep shite locked up tightly. Luckily, they usually only steal shite, and try to do so when you're not home. I haven't seen any methhead gangs fighting turf wars though.
Posted by rpg37
Biloxi, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54974 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:25 pm to
I don's see how these charts are ever quantified. I mean, why is per capita income a stat? It should be per capita income in relation to cost of living. I make $70k a year in MS, not TD-worthy, but well above the average. If I made this in a state like NY, CA, or MA, it would not get me nearly as far. This really skews the results in favor of Northern and coastal states.

Next, I truly want to know what unemployed is. There is no way 19 of every 20 capable adults are working. What does it mean to be employed? Honestly, I have no idea. But, those cars that sit in their driveways all day are not exactly running home-businesses...
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:43 pm to
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But is it really race? Or just a "type of people".

People like to push "race" as some homogenous thing, when really it's other factors that just happen to largely coincide with a subclass.


This is what I was getting at, but perhaps I didn't make my point very clear.

Trash is trash no matter what color it is. Unfortunately, in our country socioeconomic status is heavily correlated with race. That leads to a perceived racial divide in our country, when in reality it is a matter of circumstance and should have very little to do with race anymore.

Unfortunately a victim mentality has formed, and there is now this entitlement mindset. It has created a false barrier as people are more driven by emotion based on a sense that "my problems are someone else's fault."

No, you didn't chose to be born and raised in a poor neighborhood. However you were born in a country that provides free education, meals at school, and a bus to get you there. Quit making poor choices, and focus on the light at the end of the tunnel rather than the low hanging fruit around you. That is a major reason I think mentoring programs are very important in underperforming areas.
Posted by voros79
Member since Nov 2015
383 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:54 pm to
You have a point about income , and the unemployment statistic is very misleading. LA is still at the bottom or near the bottom in almost every indicator. Unfortunately I think the ranking is accurate. LA has much to offer over northern states (low cost of living, great food,friendly people, the best fishing/hunting in the country). Unfortunately all of the problems combined (education, obesity, corruption, crime) keep people from moving here.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Trash is trash no matter what color it is.



Yup.

I see it this way. I travel up and down the river on a daily basis. Down one of my routes I go over the levee. The crew working on the river is all black and busts arse, works hard. I have a ton of respect for those guys. One of them drives an hour and a half each way, every day. Why? To support his family.

Then I go right across the levee and there are a ton of dudes, healthy and hale and of working age, sitting on the damn stoop of the convenience store, drinking out of brown paper bags and smoking cigarettes. All fricking day.

I have ZERO respect for those human leeches.

It's not about color, it's about character.

Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:58 pm to
I'm convinced politico made this assumption after reading the rant and poli board.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6227 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:13 pm to
Polls are racist as frick. They basically go from the whitest states to the blackest states. Triggerreddddddd.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13398 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Any title or additional legend information that tells us what we are looking at?


I think that's a racial breakdown.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61593 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:50 pm to
I would guess that middle class people in the NE are a bit better off because they don't have to pay 10k per kid to get a decent education.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99042 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:53 pm to
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the best fishing/hunting in the country).

Louisiana doesn't have the best hunting in the country nor freshwater fishing


it's up there in salt water fishing though
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:57 pm to
On the other hand, real estate is generally cheap in the south and the cost of living is low.

Realistically being Upper class / upper-middle class isn't an issue in either area. This chart is all about the lowest class in each area when it comes to things like education and health (and crime).
Posted by voros79
Member since Nov 2015
383 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:33 pm to
Don't do much hunting or freshwater fishing so I will give you that. What state has better all around salt water fishing?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79844 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:36 pm to
It seems sorta arbitrary, considering we are better than Mississippi in almost all categories.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99042 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:38 pm to
Louisiana and Florida are probably top 2 and it could go either way depending on what you like to fish for
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20650 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 4:36 pm to
Plenty of places.
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