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re: Louisiana Supreme Court just accepted the St. George incorporation case
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:44 pm to TBoy
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:44 pm to TBoy
If St George becomes a city the next task is to split the city parish form of government.
THE City of Trashy Baton Rooouge needs to have its own council that controls the city’s business. BRPD, BRFP, city constable, city court, and city services. Eventually, with the bloated retirement programs the city of BR taxes will go up and up. EBRP residents should not pay a penny toward trashy BR’s services they do not receive.
EBRP Council should control and represent the interests of the whole parish both financially and legislatively. EMS, oversea fire district boards, DPW which includes parish controlled roads not city roads, cleaning parish owned ditches, sewer system as it tied to parish treatment centers and paid by most of the EBRP residents minus some on septic systems, financies for the sheriffs buildings, emergency preparedness, and pass or deny parish taxes.
The trash contract through Richard’s for bulk and Republic for garbage is a parish contract minus Central, Zachary, and Baker. City of St George could piggy back off that contract or find their own vendors.
BR water is a private business.
Entergy or democrat provides electricity.
Entergy or use to be City of Denham springs gas company, or company of the day depending on change of ownership provides the gas utilities.
Big step for them if they do become a city is to work on separation of the school system. Huge issue here is they will probably have to accept some area not inside the city of St. George. The school districts a different animal.
THE City of Trashy Baton Rooouge needs to have its own council that controls the city’s business. BRPD, BRFP, city constable, city court, and city services. Eventually, with the bloated retirement programs the city of BR taxes will go up and up. EBRP residents should not pay a penny toward trashy BR’s services they do not receive.
EBRP Council should control and represent the interests of the whole parish both financially and legislatively. EMS, oversea fire district boards, DPW which includes parish controlled roads not city roads, cleaning parish owned ditches, sewer system as it tied to parish treatment centers and paid by most of the EBRP residents minus some on septic systems, financies for the sheriffs buildings, emergency preparedness, and pass or deny parish taxes.
The trash contract through Richard’s for bulk and Republic for garbage is a parish contract minus Central, Zachary, and Baker. City of St George could piggy back off that contract or find their own vendors.
BR water is a private business.
Entergy or democrat provides electricity.
Entergy or use to be City of Denham springs gas company, or company of the day depending on change of ownership provides the gas utilities.
Big step for them if they do become a city is to work on separation of the school system. Huge issue here is they will probably have to accept some area not inside the city of St. George. The school districts a different animal.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:47 pm to RedHawk
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They are still crying about losing the electoral college and popular vote three years after an election
I didn't vote in that election, but there is zero chance that biden got more votes than obama.
Zero.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:48 pm to MintBerry Crunch
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Nah, nobody wants to buy grimy old houses with termite damage for $100,000 over market value, all because the owners think their location is ritzy.
Sorry your dsld slab is cracking baw
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:53 pm to el Gaucho
Houses all over the parish can have termite damage. That has nothing to do with St George or the city of BR.
Southdowns, is expensive and some people like living there.
Some people choose other areas.
My retirement plan is to buy a bunch of run down homes by Exxon before they get the land, knock the homes down, and build a big fence around it. I can put workers wanted on the fence and I guarantee no one would break into my house. High land that don’t flood and most people are moving South anyway from North Baton Rouge. It would be like living in the country except for lights from Exxon and I-110.
Southdowns, is expensive and some people like living there.
Some people choose other areas.
My retirement plan is to buy a bunch of run down homes by Exxon before they get the land, knock the homes down, and build a big fence around it. I can put workers wanted on the fence and I guarantee no one would break into my house. High land that don’t flood and most people are moving South anyway from North Baton Rouge. It would be like living in the country except for lights from Exxon and I-110.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 5:02 pm to johnnyrocket
I will never understand how the Baton Rouge Mayor and the East Baton Rouge Parish President are one in the same. These should be 2 separate positions like in Ascension Parish. Makes it too easy to unfairly comingle our tax money.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 5:05 pm to nicholastiger
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Baton Rouge sucks now, St George will make it suck even more and it's not like St George will be insulated from it anyway
So you are perfectly fine that BR sucks because idiots vote people like SWB in and the rest of the residents have to deal with it, but when the vote passes to break away, then your vote doesn’t matter or count?
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 5:10 pm to Townedrunkard
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BR sucks because idiots vote people like SWB in
Well, you shouldn’t have been sitting on your porch being lazy when election day came and you shoulda went and voted. You let SWB win.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 5:20 pm to doubleb
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EMS is a parish wide service. We are all taxed accordingly.
Yep. You are correct. I meant BRFD which is subsidized by everyone even though they have to pay their own fire protection for the unincorporated areas.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:51 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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It started with a school district and quickly worked into a full fledged city. St. George tried to do it all at once and the judges determined that they couldn't pull it off financially.
This isn't true. St. George simply wanted an independent school district, but didn't want to create their own city. Sharon Weston Broome, then a state senator, and Pat Smith opposed the plan and told these folks they needed to start their own city if they wanted their own school district. The St. George folks actually did what Broome, et al, told them to do.
Central became a city before they had their own school district, which took several years after incorporation.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:57 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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BR shady politics annexing large sections after the petition was filed because they are terrified to lose the tax dollars
What's really funny is if the incorporation is upheld, all of those annexation are void and StG can use the tax revenues taken in by the City as a credit against any legacy costs they might owe.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:57 pm to C9
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The annexations are illegal and will be reversed.
I think this is what happened to areas of Central that didn't want to be a part of the new city. Any annexations after the vote to create the city were voided.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:01 pm to whoa
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How was this determined?
The first time the incorporation was voted on. Those areas who voted against incorporation were drawn out of the map for the second vote.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:06 pm to RedHawk
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While I agree, it won't be like St. George is some safe haven with walls up around it. It will still be in the heart of East Baton Rouge Parish.
I live in the heart of what would be St. George; Coursey Boulevard between South Sherwood Forest Boulevard and Jones Creek Road is starting to get a ghetto vibe.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:09 pm to armytiger96
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In reality that area is getting run down quickly and in a few years it will not be any different than Sherwood Forrrest, O’Neal Lane, etc. no matter what you call it or who is governing it.
Yep. See my post about Coursey Boulevard.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:14 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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The first time the incorporation was voted on. Those areas who voted against incorporation were drawn out of the map for the second vote.
Actually there were two petitions. The first one fell short by less than 100 signatures after a few hundred changed their minds and pulled their signatures.
Before putting out a second petition the SG organizers analyzed the first effort and realized that certain areas were not for SG; they deleted those areas from the second try.
This effort was successful.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:29 pm to TBoy
The developers which were behind fighting St George will be aggravated if this area becomes a city.
They will have a hard time rubber stamping developments.
There is a lot of issues and there needs to be a separation of the city parish form of government.
Example 2016 flood.
Southdowns area was against curfews.
Unincorporated areas were dealing with the flooding and the law enforcement asked for it to slow down looting.
In this case St George could make the best decision for their city and provide a quicker response to helping flood victims.
City of Baton Roooougez can make the best decision for their city.
In this case the metro council did not do anything.
Parish Council could focus on the bigger picture helping work with federal and state agencies to secure funding to help people that are dealing with flooding.
They will have a hard time rubber stamping developments.
There is a lot of issues and there needs to be a separation of the city parish form of government.
Example 2016 flood.
Southdowns area was against curfews.
Unincorporated areas were dealing with the flooding and the law enforcement asked for it to slow down looting.
In this case St George could make the best decision for their city and provide a quicker response to helping flood victims.
City of Baton Roooougez can make the best decision for their city.
In this case the metro council did not do anything.
Parish Council could focus on the bigger picture helping work with federal and state agencies to secure funding to help people that are dealing with flooding.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:36 pm to BourreTheDog
I do, too. He destroyed a good thing. I attended LaSalle and Audubon Elementary Schools before we moved away and will always call BR home. Most of my family is there, albeit now over in Central and Denham. But Goodwood is home and I was there a lot at my grandparents.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:40 pm to udtiger
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What's really funny is if the incorporation is upheld, all of those annexation are void and StG can use the tax revenues taken in by the City as a credit against any legacy costs they might owe.
I and pretty sure the city was also supposed to put the St. George area tax money in escrow until it’s all sorted out. I wonder if they actually did or not.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:49 pm to BigBinBR
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I wonder if they actually did or not.
Lololololololol
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