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re: Louisiana Supreme Court just accepted the St. George incorporation case
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:39 pm to Wasp
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:39 pm to Wasp
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The difference is likely, gardere was 95% against St. George and very hard to keep track of who was in the district.
These other areas were closer to 50/50 depending on who showed up at Election Day. That graphic really doesn’t provide much of any useful information though.
There were also many apartment complexes where the people signing the first petition were disqualified because they were not registered to vote in the area they lived or not registered at all. Those complexes could be annexed back in if the landlords chose to request annexation.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:40 pm to Dixie2023
Nah aint nobody wanted Central.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:57 pm to udtiger
quote:
The fact many believe it is seceding from BR is proof of that.
Thank our media for that.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:22 pm to dewster
Does not help that St George has a Baton Rouge address despite not being in the city.
Much like a tranny, though, calling something a part of Baton Rouge doesn’t mean it ever was.
Much like a tranny, though, calling something a part of Baton Rouge doesn’t mean it ever was.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:52 pm to RidiculousHype
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This is what it all boils down to. And I have yet to hear a logical rebuttal from the anti-StG crowd.
Yep. I seriously don't know how people can't see the ridiculousness in this for those paying for things they do not receive or can even have input on. It's government robbery.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:00 pm to vodkacop
What do you mean? It’s nice. Or was, until others discovered it. What’s left of Greenwell Springs is indicative of EBR Parish. But I wouldn’t move there now.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:55 pm to MrJimBeam
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Amazing I have to pay for so much shite I don’t receive just so the parish president/mayor can slush fund it all into north Baton Rouge.
EBR Council on Aging says hello!
LOL
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:38 pm to RedHawk
How many voters lived in districts like 3-56 and 3-39 at time of vote? 3-56 is large in area but can’t be densely populated. 3-39 has industrialplex area and other businesses taking up much of its area.
Any moderately to highly populated area that didn’t show support 1st time would have eaten much more into vote margin (and also added to 25% total for signatures to even get on ballot which a judge helped block before). Any that may have not shown much support but also didn’t have a lot of voters was probably worth the risk to connect to supporting areas, MS River, and probably other things that were beneficial for a future city to meet its requirements.
They went by a comparison of the number of signatures in a district to put on it ballot the first time when the judge tossed out some signatures, what BR didn’t annex, what BR annexation didn’t block access to, and what was also needed to connect to districts supporting StG to have an overall drawn up area to incorporate that was more likely to get more than the 25% signature requirement and to then win vote. Winning vote was the ultimate goal not just getting signatures or just having a vote.
Some want to push notion that to avoid being racist StG needed to include enough districts/area to ensure that the vote failed. The only people buying that crap also believed Better Together, One BR, and that StG was trying to secede from BR like the south seceded from the US.
A truer argument for racism would be any connected majority black district/area that had a high number of signatures first time around, polled well for approval, but then got drawn out in this attempt; but I have not seen anything showing this.
Why hasn’t BR with its black majority and black mayor campaigned as hard to get those drawn out areas annexed as they did pushing better together and one BR lie? Work the streets and media like against StG.
Are areas too black and poor for BR? Or does that just get used against StG?
Any moderately to highly populated area that didn’t show support 1st time would have eaten much more into vote margin (and also added to 25% total for signatures to even get on ballot which a judge helped block before). Any that may have not shown much support but also didn’t have a lot of voters was probably worth the risk to connect to supporting areas, MS River, and probably other things that were beneficial for a future city to meet its requirements.
They went by a comparison of the number of signatures in a district to put on it ballot the first time when the judge tossed out some signatures, what BR didn’t annex, what BR annexation didn’t block access to, and what was also needed to connect to districts supporting StG to have an overall drawn up area to incorporate that was more likely to get more than the 25% signature requirement and to then win vote. Winning vote was the ultimate goal not just getting signatures or just having a vote.
Some want to push notion that to avoid being racist StG needed to include enough districts/area to ensure that the vote failed. The only people buying that crap also believed Better Together, One BR, and that StG was trying to secede from BR like the south seceded from the US.
A truer argument for racism would be any connected majority black district/area that had a high number of signatures first time around, polled well for approval, but then got drawn out in this attempt; but I have not seen anything showing this.
Why hasn’t BR with its black majority and black mayor campaigned as hard to get those drawn out areas annexed as they did pushing better together and one BR lie? Work the streets and media like against StG.
Are areas too black and poor for BR? Or does that just get used against StG?
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:47 pm to dallastigers
BR, does not want to annex Gardere as it would cost money to put in street lights and sidewalks which are required or considered a part of being in the city.
If St George becomes a city then people will really see what a sham the city parish form of government is.
Yes, ask any council person the city parish form of government cannot presently provide the services it is suppose to for the residents in this parish. The majority of money is eaten up by BRPD and BRFD retirement obligations which the city of BR receives the services, while the parish does not yet pays for it.
Then add on unincorporated areas pay for parish service while the city of BR residents do not pay for these services. BR, used the 19th JDC along with other parish services more than the unincorporated areas do.
If St George becomes a city then people will really see what a sham the city parish form of government is.
Yes, ask any council person the city parish form of government cannot presently provide the services it is suppose to for the residents in this parish. The majority of money is eaten up by BRPD and BRFD retirement obligations which the city of BR receives the services, while the parish does not yet pays for it.
Then add on unincorporated areas pay for parish service while the city of BR residents do not pay for these services. BR, used the 19th JDC along with other parish services more than the unincorporated areas do.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:07 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:
The map is “gerrymandered” for two reasons.
1. To cut out the areas that didn’t want to be part of St. George. What’s wrong with that?
2. BR shady politics annexing large sections after the petition was filed because they are terrified to lose the tax dollars.
Exactly, and once it's finalized I will make sure to never give any of those fricks money if I can avoid it, like the hospitals.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:36 pm to dallastigers
Breakdown:
3-56 223 yes 308 no
3-39 7 yes 41 no
Others:
Early voting 6,866 yes 5,681 no
3-70 A 174 yes 153 no
3-70 B 160 yes 160 no
3-63 115 yes 182 no
3-40 A 148 yes 158 no
3-40 B 172 yes 184 no
3-60 A 153 yes 128 no
3-60 B 112 yes 154 no
3-51 33 yes 52 no
3-47 A 239 yes 136 no
3-47 B 212 yes 145 no
3-19 A 216 yes 136 no
3-19 B 255 yes 158 no
3-56 223 yes 308 no
3-39 7 yes 41 no
Others:
Early voting 6,866 yes 5,681 no
3-70 A 174 yes 153 no
3-70 B 160 yes 160 no
3-63 115 yes 182 no
3-40 A 148 yes 158 no
3-40 B 172 yes 184 no
3-60 A 153 yes 128 no
3-60 B 112 yes 154 no
3-51 33 yes 52 no
3-47 A 239 yes 136 no
3-47 B 212 yes 145 no
3-19 A 216 yes 136 no
3-19 B 255 yes 158 no
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:03 pm to doubleb
quote:
Breakdown:
3-56 223 yes 308 no
3-39 7 yes 41 no
Others:
Early voting 6,866 yes 5,681 no
3-70 A 174 yes 153 no
3-70 B 160 yes 160 no
3-63 115 yes 182 no
3-40 A 148 yes 158 no
3-40 B 172 yes 184 no
3-60 A 153 yes 128 no
3-60 B 112 yes 154 no
3-51 33 yes 52 no
3-47 A 239 yes 136 no
3-47 B 212 yes 145 no
3-19 A 216 yes 136 no
3-19 B 255 yes 158 no
Thanks
Does Louisiana or EBR parish still not have the ability to report the break down early voting by precinct?
Hopefully they do a better job at making sure people don’t vote in both and cleaning up voter rolls. I moved and registered in another state to vote and was left on Louisiana/EBR voters rolls for 7 to 10 years. I had to contact them directly and force issue to be fixed after someone told me they were still seeing my name on sheet you signed. Voter registration roll person “promised” no one voted using my name during this period.
I relooked at StG vote by precinct below and saw the fine print about not including early voting at the bottom. Early voting Yes’s had a margin of almost 1,200 over No’s which could theoretically swing every orange precinct. I doubt all orange would turn green, but I would bet some did. That graph is kind of pointless to argue support for or against StG by voting precinct without early voting included especially precincts against it.

This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:07 pm to doubleb
quote:
Initially SG people were criticized for including neighborhoods that were in opposition to SG. After learning exactly which ones they were they dropped them. They reported this fact. They didn’t hide anything. There was nothing dishonest.
Exactly, this was discussed many times not only on this board but the fricking comment section of the SadVocate trying to sabotage the process.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:31 am to dallastigers
FYI, the Mrs. voted early in one election and I voted the day of the election. When I signed the book it indicated that she had early voted.
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