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re: Louisiana State Budget & TOPS
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:48 pm to fatboydave
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:48 pm to fatboydave
Being that many of the tops recipients haul arse to Texas or elsewhere I think it may be time. I read somewhere that only 30% of LA’s population has a bachelors degree. Pretty pathetic considering free tuition and all these state funded universities.
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:51 pm to LaBR4
Yeah I’m so glad I’ve funded everyone else’s education
I didn’t benefit from it and now my kid is most likely not either
And you can bet LSU will be raising fees as well
I didn’t benefit from it and now my kid is most likely not either
And you can bet LSU will be raising fees as well
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:00 pm to BeepNode
Tops will still be there. It is not even being discussed as a possible cut to the budget.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:13 pm to ctiger69
Why do you feel it is up to others to supplement your kids college.....
“ Since I have been paying my taxes for years and I now have a child set to enroll in college, in August, and set to receive full TOPS money . . . it is almost a guarantee that it will be gone. That’s the way my luck rolls ”
Welcome to how many others feel with no kids.
I know lots of people that have no children and will not any but have paid into the program
Never understand how all the people on this board gripe about other programs but sure put their hand out for this....
“ Since I have been paying my taxes for years and I now have a child set to enroll in college, in August, and set to receive full TOPS money . . . it is almost a guarantee that it will be gone. That’s the way my luck rolls ”
Welcome to how many others feel with no kids.
I know lots of people that have no children and will not any but have paid into the program
Never understand how all the people on this board gripe about other programs but sure put their hand out for this....
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:37 pm to Thecoz
The problem with tops is it never helped those that really needed it
It won’t go away with Edwards but it will likely get reduced or cut in some capacity
It won’t go away with Edwards but it will likely get reduced or cut in some capacity
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:41 pm to jcaz
Please kill TOPS it has caused an inflation of prices among universities
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:46 pm to PNTiger
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LA will feel the impact of this for years without Feds sending funds.
In mid may congress is going to parachute money to state and local governments. It is going to be another 2 trillion. Because we were hard hit early, we may end up with more money than we normally have.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:55 pm to tduecen
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Please kill TOPS it has caused an inflation of prices among universities
I don't have a problem getting rid of TOPS. The problem is that the entire university infrastructure in the entire state is built around it, good or bad.
TOPS has taken the place of many scholarships, so if it's gone, there are no scholarships to take it's place, as there were in the past.
College tuition, fees, room/board, etc., are all outrageous due to TOPS. Are they going to cut those without TOPS? My kids paid more in fees above and beyond TOPS than I paid in straight tuition prior to TOPS.
It would cause a bad domino effect in student housing, especially in Baton Rouge. Lot's of apartment buildings around LSU would turn Section 8 if students have less disposable income. That's not the goverment's responsibility, but just fact that will happen.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:38 pm to 385 Tiger
TOPS isn’t going anywhere. It would be political suicide to axe it
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:48 pm to 385 Tiger
Can't lose. TOPS stays in place and kids go to college cheap in Louisiana or TOPS dissolves and kids get out of Louisiana faster.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:04 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Needs tougher requirements and needs to be converted into a forgivable student loan program. Let it be forgiven as long as you graduate within 5 years and work in Louisiana for 5 years after graduation. If you drop out of school or move out of state shortly after graduation, then it has to be repaid as a student loan. Would be a lot easier to keep funding it that way and have it remain available for the kids who deserve it most.
I think these are some good points that the state could do. What blew me away most coming to LSU was learning about TOPS that basically anyone who wasn't brain dead could get it and they gave it to everyone. Like it or not it should be preferred to those from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:39 pm to Haydo
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Like it or not it should be preferred to those from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
Hell no it should be dependent on strict academic guidelines that only the best of the best can achieve.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:47 pm to LSU316
Like it or not it should be preferred to those from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
Hell no it should be dependent on strict academic guidelines that only the best of the best can achieve.
it should be both ....which i actually think was the original objective... requirements expanded both income and academic wise as politicians used modifications to buy votes...
i still remember the first amount in the budget for TOPS....it grew very fast to become the gorilla in the budget it is now....
Hell no it should be dependent on strict academic guidelines that only the best of the best can achieve.
it should be both ....which i actually think was the original objective... requirements expanded both income and academic wise as politicians used modifications to buy votes...
i still remember the first amount in the budget for TOPS....it grew very fast to become the gorilla in the budget it is now....
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:55 pm to Haydo
Agree on all of these points. This would be a great time for the state to use change the requirements for TOPS and incorporate a post graduate "stay at home" requirement that would need to be fulfilled by the TOPS recipient. However, concurrently, we also need to make sure we have jobs in the state for graduates of TOPS programs, which would probably need corporate tax breaks to be achieved. If travel/tourism (festivals, conventions, etc.) will be less profitable for 12-18 months and oil prices are below $40/bbl (being generous using the 12M strip for WTI), this state is going to need to diversify its revenue base (legalize and tax weed, allow for sports gambling, and try to bring in other companies to employ TOPS graduates). Unfortunately, it is a long-term play and that will be hard to accomplish.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:11 pm to PNTiger
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Staying online for the fall would eliminate some salaries, utilities and operating costs.
would destroy the economy in Baton Rouge, the businesses/apartments around campus would be so screwed
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:15 pm to 385 Tiger
Don’t worry, we can always fall back on the Film Industry when things settle down.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:20 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:it was only a matter of time before all the apartments around LSU turn ghetto. Might as well get it over with
would destroy the economy in Baton Rouge, the businesses/apartments around campus would be so screwed
Way too many popped up way too fast
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:46 am to Thecoz
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Like it or not it should be preferred to those from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
Why these are the MF'ers that are going to get high and drunk every day on the 1st year of their free ride and flunk out never to return and the tax dollars we invested on that POS are gone forever.
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it should be both
Why? I bet if you did the studies it would be way more beneficial to the state to just make it based on stringent, rigorous academic requirements....I'm talking 3.8 GPAs and 30 ACT scores to even get looked at.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:49 am to TigerintheNO
Good then the price gouging may stop
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