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re: Louisiana officially canceling Mid-Barataria Diversion, state's biggest coastal project

Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22637 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:00 pm to
Just get some heavy equipment down there and breach the levee at night when no-one can see. That'll divert water and sediment.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76282 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:08 pm to
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fortunately I was able to see the presentation a couple years ago at the Port of fusion, when you see it on a map in comparison to the total area around it, it is relatively small,,, and it would take 50 years to achieve


25 sq mi is more are than has been built by the Wax Lake delta; which is an incredible feat of Mother Nature.

To bad your ignorance is shared with the idiots making decisions
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:10 pm to
They must have made it past the "make you family rich with studies and contracts" portion to the portion where results are expected.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:12 pm to
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One day the gulf will be at Belle chase, Lafitte and Larose


And spending $3 billion dollars on this boondoggle would not have changed that fact.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9073 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:47 pm to
You can tell the drastic difference of each side of the Mississippi down there. The nutrients alone from this would have invigorated plant life down there. The east side is green with the fresh water, the west side is dying.

Lafitte and the Baratarian Basin will continue to suffer for another 15 years of environmental studies for future diversions.


Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25140 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:57 pm to
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would only create 25 mi.² of land in one small area
Thats a sizeable chunk of land gain. Now instead of gaining that land plus replenishing sediment for existing land, we’ll continue to lose even more land.

Its a much bigger net difference that 25 sq miles when you factor in that land that’ll continue eroding away.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3111 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:50 pm to
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At the end of the day, it's just something that we just could not afford, no way, shape or form," Alford said.


IT WAS FEDERALLY FUNDED
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1229 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:56 pm to
Yeah well Landry forgets there are something called laws.

This diversion project just doesn’t simply go away. Votes have to be cast. Legislation has to be changed.

Big ol nothingburger from Napoleon Landry.

Again.
Posted by Nola1962
Member since Jul 2020
272 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:52 pm to
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2244 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:07 pm to
I drive HWY 23 often. There is almost nothing between Jesuit Bend and Port Sulphur. Anything that is there is either elevated, or in the case of the new LNG plant, has its own flood protection. Remove all those river and back levees.

This money would be better spent elevating HWY 23 over that stretch, and removing those river levees. Let the Mississippi flood the entire Barataria basin every year.

Spend whatever leftover money there is building up lower JP levees (such as Marrero & Lafitte) for times of historically high river levels.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3111 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:27 pm to
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This money would be better spent elevating HWY 23 over that stretch, and removing those river levees. Let the Mississippi flood the entire Barataria basin every year.



Sounds great, but the oyster and shrimp farmers don't give a shite about our state. They just want the shrimping area and oyster beds to stay exactly where they are and will make sure to lobby against any attempt to rebuild our coast
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17129 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:38 pm to
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This diversion project just doesn’t simply go away. Votes have to be cast. Legislation has to be changed

Unfortunately, that's exactly what is happening. And Landry has the power to do it.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9769 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:41 pm to
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5 years from now will be interesting to see how much FEMA is charging for flood insurance in those two parishes


Hopefully Plaquemines and St. Bernard will be made to pick up the tab for the rest of Louisiana’s flood insurance. They deserve it.

Corrupt, stupid politicians make me sick, and this shite hole state is full of them.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1229 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:52 pm to
No sitting governor has the power to change 200 years of governance to reflect current legislation, with one fell swoop of his dirty pen.

Get real.

Landry ain’t God, yall.

There are rules.

This ain’t Vietnam.
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Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17129 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:00 pm to
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No sitting governor has the power to change 200 years of governance to reflect current legislation, with one fell swoop of his dirty pen.

I'm no fan of him, but he has authority over CPRA and through it, the State Coastal Master plan. All my they had to do was leave it out of the FY budget.

Per the CPRA press release I saw, they're going forward with the Myrtle Grove dredging project as a replacement.

Eta: I'm just glad he can't dismantle CPRA without legislative action and a constitutional amendment.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18876 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:22 pm to
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Cancelling the MBSD means $600m down the drain with nothing to show for it.


It will end up being over $1B once you factor in unpaid contract obligations.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2692 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:09 am to
Saw an interview on TV a while back with a scientist and supporter of the diversion. The scientist said people against the diversion were scared that their way of life will change. The scientist said they were absolutely right, the diversion WILL CHANGE how the live, but their way of life IS CHANGING ANYWAY, and the diversion provides some hope of a sustainable future on the land and water, otherwise the change that will happen is nothing will be left for anyone.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53738 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:16 am to
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Thats a sizeable chunk of land gain. Now instead of gaining that land plus replenishing sediment for existing land, we’ll continue to lose even more land.

Its a much bigger net difference that 25 sq miles when you factor in that land that’ll continue eroding away.


Oysters are good, who gives a shite

Me and my family will dip if the day ever comes, I got people in Metairie
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17129 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:28 am to
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Oysters are good, who gives a shite


And in 20 years when the bulk of the industry has converted to off-bottom oyster farming, these areas will sit idle.


The real reason why this has been cancelled has nothing to do with the social and environmental impacts or legal issues. It's because the current state leaders have friends, families, and donors who stand to benefit financially from "dredge baby, dredge".

Guarantee that someone at the top stands to financially benefit from this.
quote:

The Medium Diversion at Myrtle Grove with Dedicated Dredging feasibility study (MDMG) is a Mississippi River diversion with dedicated dredging ecosystem restoration project identified in the LCA program. It was authorized under the Water Resources Development Act of 2007 - Section 7006(c)(1)(E) and Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority of Louisiana is the cost-share partner in the development and implementation of this project.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2692 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:31 am to
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Me and my family will dip if the day ever comes, I got people in Metairie


You own land, have any equity? You are willing to walk away with empty-handed, because this is what will happen. Are you hoping the state or federal government will swope in to give you a buy-out?
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