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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - July 6, 2020 Update: 66,327 cases - 3,188 deaths - 813,645 tested

Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:39 pm to
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decide for yourself


Vox is one of the worst media outlets going. Worse than CNN or MSNBC
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:46 pm to
I'm not really vouching for Vox here, but most of the info is cited.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:57 pm to
I think that theory from Vox holds a lot more water than most deniers want to believe.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:51 pm to
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I think that theory from Vox holds a lot more water than most deniers want to believe.



Just like when VOX theorized we were 2 weeks behind Italy?

VOX article saying other countries are going to be like Italy

VOX is total shite and probably the most biased "reporting" I've ever seen. I wouldn't believe a word these people say ever. In fact take what they say and assume the total opposite.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14730 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:14 pm to
I looked at the cdc website. Which still says pandemic. Which is why I asked for backing of his statement. How dare I ask for more info.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:16 pm to
See this is what pisses me off about Vox. They present shite as fact and it's total bullshite. Their entire article is based on bullshite.

quote:

It’s not a matter of a one-week lag between cases and deaths. We expect something more on the order of a four, five-, six-week lag.”




When in fact the time to death as per CDC is no where near 4, 5 or 6 fricking weeks.

Mean number of days from symptom onset to death (standard deviation)
Source: Preliminary COVID-19 estimates, CDC§

0-49 years: 14.9 (7.7) days

50-64 years: 15.3 (8.1) days

=65 years: 12.9 (7.6) day

LINK


frick you Vox
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108593 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:18 pm to
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Some people do get infected and die quickly, but the majority of people who die, it takes a while,” Murray continued. “It’s not a matter of a one-week lag between cases and deaths. We expect something more on the order of a four-, five-, six-week lag.”





quote:

I think that theory from Vox holds a lot more water than most deniers want to believe

quote:

fightin tigers
you have lost all potential credibility of trying to be impartial

That article is filled with horseshite all over
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129531 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:23 pm to
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most of the info is cited.


We’ve reached the point with covid that there are “stats” and “peer reviewed articles” that can “prove” any point you wish to make.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:25 pm to
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That article is filled with horseshite all over


But it was cited. It is complete bullshite cited by complete bullshitters but someone read it on the internet so it was cited.

People are so fricking gullible. Not one link to a study just some rando saying "we expect it to be 6 weeks" and they fricking believe it.

This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:50 pm to
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We’ve reached the point with covid that there are “stats” and “peer reviewed articles” that can “prove” any point you wish to make.



Yeah, I agree with that. I just posted it because it was the opposite of what people have been posting here.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50044 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:52 pm to
That Vox article was the equivalent of the posters on here who wishcast every hurricane to be Katrina x10
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:55 pm to
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just posted it because it was the opposite of what people have been posting here.


It it’s completely wrong. Why would you post it just to be a contrarian?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:17 pm to
Completely wrong shite is posted here all of the time. The answer is usually somewhere in between.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120121 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:20 pm to
People have been wish casting this thing since March
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50044 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:23 pm to
True, as has been the case with nearly all reporting across every platform on covid.

The “four, five, six week” line seems particularly egregious though.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43147 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:24 pm to
I’ve got a bad feeling about tomorrow’s numbers.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:32 pm to
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The “four, five, six week” line seems particularly egregious though.



It does seem a bit outlandish, but if you look at the linked CDC data...

quote:

Mean number of days from symptom onset to death (standard deviation)

0-49 years: 14.9 (7.7) days

50-64 years: 15.3 (8.1) days

=65 years: 12.9 (7.6) days


Let's make it a round 2 weeks, 14 days.


quote:

Mean number of days from death to reporting (standard deviation)

0-49 years: 7.1 (7.7) days

50-64 years: 7.2 (7.7) days

=65 years: 6.6 (7.3) days


Let's call it another week.


That's 3 weeks for a death to show up. If you add in that it can sometimes take a week or so before you get sick after being infected, that 4 week timeframe isn't too far off.

I'm not a math guy though, so let me know if I'm interpreting the data incorrectly.

This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50044 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:39 pm to
Five or six weeks would seem to be an outlier to me.

I think 4 weeks is reasonable but like you said the data provided is all over the place.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:34 am to
I explained it in my op.

Open testing to all so that we can know the real contraction rate. If only ssymptomatic people get tested then the contraction rate is perverted to be higher than it really is.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76423 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:39 am to
States with increased cases are seeing increased deaths. Shocking, I know.

We have a daily thread about how nationwide deaths are decreasing, but just ignore that a good portion of the country is still shut down.

Pointing out that death is a lagging indicator brings on downvotes these days. How lagging is debatable.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 6:41 am
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