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Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Then you don’t understand how averages work
You're right man this stuff is hard.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:02 pm to Not Cooper
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I simply removed it and went 6 by 6. Thank you for responding in a productive manner.
except we know they included the Saturday numbers on Sunday, so...
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:03 pm to Salmon
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except we know they included the Saturday numbers on Sunday, so...
Did they come out and say that? If so, I was wrong. If not, I feel like my conclusion is valid.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Compared to when? Not the last month.
compared to the previous 7 days
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:04 pm to Not Cooper
quote:Are you serious?
Did they come out and say that?
You realize the just post the total amount of people in the hospital, correct? So them skipping a day on reporting means nothing
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:04 pm to Not Cooper
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Did they come out and say that?
Look at the total column
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
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Are you serious?
Dude go away
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:05 pm to Not Cooper
No they don't throw them into the next day..
they keep them in their back pocket, add them to a bunch of other backlog #s, and dump them the next time the numbers start to look less apocalyptic
they keep them in their back pocket, add them to a bunch of other backlog #s, and dump them the next time the numbers start to look less apocalyptic
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:05 pm to Not Cooper
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Did they come out and say that?
Are you serious? Look at the other numbers
You really can’t be this stupid
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:05 pm to Not Cooper
quote:No
Dude go away
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:06 pm to Not Cooper
Hospitalizations are the total number of people in the hospital now
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:06 pm to TigersSEC2010
Following this thread, one thing has become painfully obvious. We need to immediately open schools.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:07 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Following this thread, one thing has become painfully obvious. We need to immediately open schools.
Or close some
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:07 pm to lsupride87
I am not going to throw insults, but your idea is incorrect. You are under the assumption they added none of the cases from the zero reporting day to the next day. The only way your math is correct is if you know they added none of the "zero" days to the next day. For the record I think using a rolling average on a day that "zero" was reported is problematic both ways.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:08 pm to TheAstroTiger
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I am not going to throw insults, but your idea is incorrect. You are under the assumption they added none of the cases from the zero reporting day to the next day. The only way your math is correct is if you know they added none of the "zero" days to the next day. For the record I think using a rolling average on a day that "zero" was reported is problematic both ways.
Between 7/17 and 7/19 total hospitalizations increased by 56. For a 7 day average, knowing the individual increase on those individual days is inconsequential
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:10 pm to TheAstroTiger
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I am not going to throw insults, but your idea is incorrect. You are under the assumption they added none of the cases from the zero reporting day to the next day. The only way your math is correct is if you know they added none of the "zero" days to the next day. For the record I think using a rolling average on a day that "zero" was reported is problematic both ways.
Thank you for a reasonable response. We've got 6 pages of hurling insults and maybe 2 or 3 people who can have a discussion like this.
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For the record I think using a rolling average on a day that "zero" was reported is problematic both ways.
I agree that it is problematic, which is why I decided to throw it out. Maybe that was not the correct move, but it's something that could be discussed.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:10 pm to Not Cooper
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That. Is not. True. Backlog almost never gets reported the immediate day following. We know this. We've all seen it. You don't just throw a 0 for that data point.
Disagree. What the hopsitals are reporting to the state is their current status (beds occupied by COVID patients). The state than goes +/- based on what the hospitals are saying today vs. yesterday. Cumulative admits and discharges are not being tracked. Any "backlog" with hopsitalizations is irrelevant, so long as what they are saying today for head count is on the same basis as what they were saying yesterday.
Hospital A on Friday: "We have 25 people in the house"
Hospital A on Monday: "We have 50 people in the house"
The state has never provided the granularity to say "On Friday we had 25 patients, over the weekend 15 of those 25 were discharged, and we received 40 new patients, for a new total of 50 patients" If they were, you'd have a point about the making an assumption about the zero. But sense they have just been counting total beds to begin with, using the zero is valid.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:10 pm to TheAstroTiger
yup. better to compare month to month than week to week anyways but not too bright ppl on here my guy
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:10 pm to tigerskin
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Yeah.....and that is an improvement
An improvement in the rate of increase. Not an improvement in the number of people hospitalized. But I understand the desire to cast the numbers in the way most helpful to your position. It would be different if we were dealing with people trying to be objective, but I guess there is nothing wrong with ideologues on a message board wanting to present the spin they think is best for their positions. That goes for ideologues of either stripe of course.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 1:14 pm
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