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re: Lori Loughlin's defense:She didn't know what she was doing was illegal

Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:08 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:08 am to
Will work flawlessly. She's a celebrity, no one expects them to know or obey the law.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20515 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:09 am to
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Hell, I didn’t know it was illegal to write an endowment check to get your kid in.

To a college coach, while pretending your child is a recruited athlete? That's not mens rea, that's full blown diarrhea.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:11 am to
This is outrageous, egregious, preposterous.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:12 am to
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Well, most people understand that bribery is a no no.


Depends on where you draw the line. You want season suite tickets at an LSU football game. Will a 500 dollar donation get you the rights to even buy tickets? Nope. Will 5000? Nope. How much of a donation will get you the amount of points you need? Who knows? The people you need to bribe.

Is it bribery to build a library or dorm with the condition of getting your child admitted? frick no. You’re a philanthropist. To do what they did was wrong, but she had someone handle it for her. They have to prove that she not only had knowledge of what he was doing, but that she was ok with it. And they probably won’t be able to prove it. By pleading not guilty, her lawyer doesn’t think so either.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:13 am to
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Will work flawlessly


Of course it will. Everyone screaming about the law and intent and all of that haven't been paying attention. She'll end up being the victim and get a movie of the week out of the deal.


Downvote away ya bunch of ostriches
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35677 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:13 am to
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She's innocent. It's society that has done this.


Nonsense.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58823 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:13 am to
Scratch that
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:14 am to
I don't know why anyone is taking up for her. People elected Trump to drain the swamp and that's what happened in this case.

If she looked like Amy Schumer I doubt anyone on this board would be taking up for her.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58823 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:16 am to
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Downvote away ya bunch of ostriches


I hate to break it to you but nobody really cares
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3747 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:16 am to
Her kid got a sports scholarship but didn’t play a sport.

Her defense isn’t ignorance. It is she paid the consultant who did everything, she didn’t know what the consultant was doing. Essentially, the other person did the illegal activity and she just provided the consultants funding to do so. Who knows what the consultant told her or sold her on how he was going to do it. It is actually a pretty good legal strategy but only if it works. Make the jury think it was someone else but your client.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20515 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:18 am to
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I don’t think her kid was one of the fake athletes but I might be wrong

I believe it was crew team.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12321 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:18 am to
This is a bold strategy, but I think the Chewbacca defense would be the smart move.


Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:19 am to
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Who knows what the consultant told her or sold her on how he was going to do it. It is actually a pretty good legal strategy


No it's not. Or hitmen would be prevalent

They also made payments directly to the coach.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:19 am to
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Depends on where you draw the line. You want season suite tickets at an LSU football game. Will a 500 dollar donation get you the rights to even buy tickets? Nope. Will 5000? Nope. How much of a donation will get you the amount of points you need? Who knows? The people you need to bribe.

Is it bribery to build a library or dorm with the condition of getting your child admitted? frick no.

THAT isn't what happened here

and you can deduct those donations, too

there is a lot more past giving money (And who the money was given to) in this case that's going to doom her

she gave money to (1) a completely unaffiliated party who (2) created a scheme to bribe athletic coaches to give non-scholarship slots to her children to slide under normal admissions standards.

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but she had someone handle it for her. They have to prove that she not only had knowledge of what he was doing, but that she was ok with it.

she transferred the money and, iirc, participated in creating the fraud of athletic participation

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By pleading not guilty, her lawyer doesn’t think so either.


oh my sweet summer child
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:20 am to
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It is she paid the consultant who did everything, she didn’t know what the consultant was doing. Essentially, the other person did the illegal activity and she just provided the consultants funding to do so


Yep.

“I give you $500,000 and you get her in?”

Yes. And don’t ask how.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:22 am to
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They also made payments directly to the coach.


and DEDUCTED the money used in the scheme

like i said earlier, even if this "ignorance" scheme works, she's fricked on tax fraud

also, again, the guy who ran this scheme (as well as other parents) already pleaded guilty. do y'all think he's just going to be like "oh yeah the other 40 people knew but lori? naw she was ignorant" ?
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
11016 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:22 am to
My wife is a lawyer. She has clients all the time that think this is a good excuse. Guess what? It’s not.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:25 am to
I’m not saying she’s smart. Not in the least. I’m sure she’s dumb as frick, there isn’t much question about that. I’m suggesting her ignorance defense is legit...not a technicality. There isn’t much debate that the consultant and the person inside the athletic department are dirty as frick.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:29 am to
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. I’m suggesting her ignorance defense is legit...not a technicality.

i don't buy it, especially when reports came out that she was pissed when the feds filed a superseding indictment against her

she thought it was a bluff. it was not.

that's not the behavior of a person who is ignorant. she avoided the slap on the wrist (that Huffman will get) to gamble
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:29 am to
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She didn't know what she was doing was illegal by East Coast Band


I actually can get behind that. She knew it was wrong/cheating, but may have had no idea it was against the law.

Bring the hate...lol
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