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re: Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:19 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:19 am to GetCocky11
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Multiple reports say the Rev. Jesse Jackson is headed for Minneapolis, and is expected to hold a news conference around 1 p.m.
The Rev. Al Sharpton posted on his Twitter account that he is headed for the Twin Cities as well.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:20 am to GetCocky11
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Let's see if this thread sticks.
Considering these riots,etc are racial in the first place, it's going to be hard to discuss this without bringing up racism
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:21 am to The Spleen
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Perhaps they're just the result of anger spilling over because years and decades of calling out these unjust killings
Except statistically you are incorrect. It's another political agenda to unite one race against another. Police arent out looking to kill unarmed black men. Yes, this was awful, but its a statistical anomaly.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to Slingin Pickle
Thanks, #wellactuallyguy.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to The Spleen
I get that people are angry, heck I'm angry too at stuff like this. Use your anger for good. Rioting and destroying your community will solve nothing. There is nothing positive that occurs from rioting. Just because it makes you feel less angry doesn't make it effective.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to GetCocky11
I feel as if the whole country is just one big powder keg, about to explode. Corona and the shutdowns have made people inane and desperate. People are in arguments even more than ever, and oh, there's a very divisive election coming up, where whichever side loses, I'm not sure they are going to be able to peacefully accept it.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:27 am to Slingin Pickle
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Police arent out looking to kill unarmed black men.
Is there any proof or information that the cop would not have knelt on the neck of a white guy under arrest?
By just talking about race, to me, we are ignoring the bigger issue... why some officers (a very, very small percentage) think this kind of "police work" is ok.
I just cannot ever fathom why an officer would kneel on a guy's neck that long. Maybe, maybe, a couple of seconds to subdue him enough to handcuff him, or if it's really a wild situation, to hog-tie him. But once he's on the ground handcuffed behind his back, he's not going anywhere.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:31 am to GetCocky11
Fighting fire with fire...that should do it.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:35 am to Bustedsack
Protests will resume after everyone gets off work at 5pm, I'm guessing?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:36 am to QJenk
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Just because it makes you feel less angry doesn't make it effective.
I doubt it lessened their anger and frustration any.
And what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?
I'm not justifying the behavior, but rather looking at it from the why side of it rather than the what side of it. What they did was destructive and illegal. Why they did it perhaps provides a glimpse into your question of what they're trying to accomplish.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:40 am to The Spleen
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what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?
Publicly call for an end to the astronomical single motherhood rate in their community, place a large emphasis on the nuclear family, demand an end to drugs and high school drop out rates in their own community, demand an end to violence in their own community, publicly demand people be held responsible for their own actions, stop voting for politicians who profit off of their poverty, look inward for the deep rooted causes of their problems rather than blame everything on some outward force...
You know, stop pretending there’s no way they can change things themselves in the most free, most diverse, most educated, most class mobile, richest country in human history.
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:42 am to The Spleen
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:45 am to The Spleen
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And what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?
I'm not justifying the behavior,
Its exactly what you are doing
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:50 am to LSUFanHouston
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People are in arguments even more than ever
Is this true in real life outside of the internet and social media?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 am to TDcline
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no shortage of white guilt
Minneapolis Minnesota is ground zero for this type of s***. Wife's family is from that area, and sister-in-law and all aunt's, uncle's, et...full-blown SJW
Lily White, entitled, and only see black people when they go downtown... Otherwise, they have no idea what living an actual mixed race society is like.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 am to jchamil
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Is this true in real life outside of the internet and social media?
No.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:53 am to DomincDecoco
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is expected to hold a news conference around 1 p.m.
Why anyone would give that man a public news platform is beyond my comprehension
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:55 am to DomincDecoco
Al and Jesse are just coattail riders at this point
Gone are the days where they whip up a frenzy. They're honestly not woke enough for these kids.
Gone are the days where they whip up a frenzy. They're honestly not woke enough for these kids.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:56 am to LSUFanHouston
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I just cannot ever fathom why an officer would kneel on a guy's neck that long. Maybe, maybe, a couple of seconds to subdue him enough to handcuff him, or if it's really a wild situation, to hog-tie him. But once he's on the ground handcuffed behind his back, he's not going anywhere.
Exactly, I 100% agree. Take the emotion out of it and there is still no good reason for that officers actions. Was it racist? Maybe. There is no doubt that they interact with more blacks on a daily basis than whites in certain areas. Is that racist in itself? I can't answer for sure but I think no, my opinion is that the black population has significantly higher crime rates and the data backs that up. I'm white and have had more than one bad encounter with the police, one really really bad. I brought some of it on myself by committing the original crime, but it did not deserve the beating and macing that I took and stripped naked, maced again and (I think) 3 days in blacked out cell, like a dungeon.
Cops have A LOT of power over us and a small percentage use it inappropriately. My opinion is that spills over unto the the black community more than that the white community and there are many factors for that, many are the black community's own fault. But some, are just dick head fricking cops. fricking bullies and deserving of the name pigs. Not many at all, but a small percentage. I don't see how anyone could kneel on a guys neck until he died. I don't have it in my soul to be able to do that to a human unless he did something personal to me or more specifically, my family. I could get over someone doing something inappropriate to me, but I do think I could kill someone that hurt my brother, sister, neices, nephew, etc. It would take that for me to kneel on someones neck until they died, but I'm not an evil sociopath. That cop, and a small few other cops, seem to be as well.
That's coming from someone that things 80% of these cops vs blacks killings that we see publicized or ultimately caused by the citizen, like the Ferguson or Alton STerling case. They brought that on themselves. FLoyd didn't, although he probably deserved a knee in the ribs to subdue him.
That's the thoughts of Supadave on this whole matter. It's sad and is going to further erode police trust in another huge chunk of public (especially black) trust in our communities.
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am to LSUFanHouston
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Is there any proof or information that the cop would not have knelt on the neck of a white guy under arrest?
I don't think there's any way to really gauge that question, other than maybe looking at that officer's past actions. I do think it's fairly safe to say that most white guys being detained and behaving like Floyd would not have ended up dead. I dare say most white guys would not have even been detained and cuffed, but I also think many black guys would not have been.
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