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re: Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent

Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:19 am to
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:19 am to
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Multiple reports say the Rev. Jesse Jackson is headed for Minneapolis, and is expected to hold a news conference around 1 p.m.

The Rev. Al Sharpton posted on his Twitter account that he is headed for the Twin Cities as well.




Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:20 am to
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Let's see if this thread sticks.

Considering these riots,etc are racial in the first place, it's going to be hard to discuss this without bringing up racism
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:21 am to
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Perhaps they're just the result of anger spilling over because years and decades of calling out these unjust killings


Except statistically you are incorrect. It's another political agenda to unite one race against another. Police arent out looking to kill unarmed black men. Yes, this was awful, but its a statistical anomaly.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to
Thanks, #wellactuallyguy.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17201 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to
I get that people are angry, heck I'm angry too at stuff like this. Use your anger for good. Rioting and destroying your community will solve nothing. There is nothing positive that occurs from rioting. Just because it makes you feel less angry doesn't make it effective.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40211 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:23 am to
I feel as if the whole country is just one big powder keg, about to explode. Corona and the shutdowns have made people inane and desperate. People are in arguments even more than ever, and oh, there's a very divisive election coming up, where whichever side loses, I'm not sure they are going to be able to peacefully accept it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40211 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:27 am to
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Police arent out looking to kill unarmed black men.


Is there any proof or information that the cop would not have knelt on the neck of a white guy under arrest?

By just talking about race, to me, we are ignoring the bigger issue... why some officers (a very, very small percentage) think this kind of "police work" is ok.

I just cannot ever fathom why an officer would kneel on a guy's neck that long. Maybe, maybe, a couple of seconds to subdue him enough to handcuff him, or if it's really a wild situation, to hog-tie him. But once he's on the ground handcuffed behind his back, he's not going anywhere.
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
4387 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:31 am to
Fighting fire with fire...that should do it.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:35 am to
Protests will resume after everyone gets off work at 5pm, I'm guessing?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:36 am to
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Just because it makes you feel less angry doesn't make it effective.




I doubt it lessened their anger and frustration any.


And what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?

I'm not justifying the behavior, but rather looking at it from the why side of it rather than the what side of it. What they did was destructive and illegal. Why they did it perhaps provides a glimpse into your question of what they're trying to accomplish.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:40 am to
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what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?


Publicly call for an end to the astronomical single motherhood rate in their community, place a large emphasis on the nuclear family, demand an end to drugs and high school drop out rates in their own community, demand an end to violence in their own community, publicly demand people be held responsible for their own actions, stop voting for politicians who profit off of their poverty, look inward for the deep rooted causes of their problems rather than blame everything on some outward force...

You know, stop pretending there’s no way they can change things themselves in the most free, most diverse, most educated, most class mobile, richest country in human history.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:47 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:42 am to
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This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:45 am to
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And what actions in your esteemed mind do you think would be effective that haven't already been tried?

I'm not justifying the behavior,


Its exactly what you are doing
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18850 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:50 am to
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People are in arguments even more than ever


Is this true in real life outside of the internet and social media?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12092 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 am to
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no shortage of white guilt


Minneapolis Minnesota is ground zero for this type of s***. Wife's family is from that area, and sister-in-law and all aunt's, uncle's, et...full-blown SJW


Lily White, entitled, and only see black people when they go downtown... Otherwise, they have no idea what living an actual mixed race society is like.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39284 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 am to
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Is this true in real life outside of the internet and social media?



No.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:53 am to
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is expected to hold a news conference around 1 p.m.


Why anyone would give that man a public news platform is beyond my comprehension
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85984 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:55 am to
Al and Jesse are just coattail riders at this point

Gone are the days where they whip up a frenzy. They're honestly not woke enough for these kids.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31792 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:56 am to
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I just cannot ever fathom why an officer would kneel on a guy's neck that long. Maybe, maybe, a couple of seconds to subdue him enough to handcuff him, or if it's really a wild situation, to hog-tie him. But once he's on the ground handcuffed behind his back, he's not going anywhere.


Exactly, I 100% agree. Take the emotion out of it and there is still no good reason for that officers actions. Was it racist? Maybe. There is no doubt that they interact with more blacks on a daily basis than whites in certain areas. Is that racist in itself? I can't answer for sure but I think no, my opinion is that the black population has significantly higher crime rates and the data backs that up. I'm white and have had more than one bad encounter with the police, one really really bad. I brought some of it on myself by committing the original crime, but it did not deserve the beating and macing that I took and stripped naked, maced again and (I think) 3 days in blacked out cell, like a dungeon.

Cops have A LOT of power over us and a small percentage use it inappropriately. My opinion is that spills over unto the the black community more than that the white community and there are many factors for that, many are the black community's own fault. But some, are just dick head fricking cops. fricking bullies and deserving of the name pigs. Not many at all, but a small percentage. I don't see how anyone could kneel on a guys neck until he died. I don't have it in my soul to be able to do that to a human unless he did something personal to me or more specifically, my family. I could get over someone doing something inappropriate to me, but I do think I could kill someone that hurt my brother, sister, neices, nephew, etc. It would take that for me to kneel on someones neck until they died, but I'm not an evil sociopath. That cop, and a small few other cops, seem to be as well.

That's coming from someone that things 80% of these cops vs blacks killings that we see publicized or ultimately caused by the citizen, like the Ferguson or Alton STerling case. They brought that on themselves. FLoyd didn't, although he probably deserved a knee in the ribs to subdue him.

That's the thoughts of Supadave on this whole matter. It's sad and is going to further erode police trust in another huge chunk of public (especially black) trust in our communities.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am to
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Is there any proof or information that the cop would not have knelt on the neck of a white guy under arrest?




I don't think there's any way to really gauge that question, other than maybe looking at that officer's past actions. I do think it's fairly safe to say that most white guys being detained and behaving like Floyd would not have ended up dead. I dare say most white guys would not have even been detained and cuffed, but I also think many black guys would not have been.
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