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re: Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:14 pm to dukke v
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:14 pm to dukke v
quote:Korkstand's view is that the problems facing blacks in America are 100% caused by "the system working against them".
Who is treating whom a certain way?????
He doesn't believe that, in current circumstances, black people should even try to advance themselves, as it is a hopeless endeavor against the oppressive system.
Thomas Sowell said it beautifully here.
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The civil-rights movement in 20th-century America attracted many people who put everything on the line for the sake of fighting against racial oppression. But the eventual success of that movement attracted opportunists and even turned some idealists into opportunists.
Over the generations, black leaders have ranged from noble souls to shameless charlatans. After the success of the civil-rights insurgency, the latter have come into their own, gaining money, power, and fame by promoting racial attitudes and actions that are counterproductive to the interests of those they lead.
None of this is unique to blacks or to the United States. In various countries and times, leaders of groups that lagged behind, economically and educationally, have taught their followers to blame all their problems on other people — and to hate those other people.
Groups that rose from poverty to prosperity seldom did so by having their own racial or ethnic leaders to follow. While most Americans can easily name a number of black leaders, current or past, how many can name Asian-American ethnic leaders or Jewish ethnic leaders?
The time is long overdue to stop looking for progress through racial or ethnic leaders. Such leaders have too many incentives to promote polarizing attitudes and actions that are counterproductive for minorities and disastrous for the country.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:14 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Looks to me like they have long had an extremely powerful ally in "the media". How is that working out?
The problem is, you are picking a fight with an entity (the system) you have no chance with.
You need allies.
Burning down businesses and schools dont net you those allies.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
National guard activated just now...the riots bled over into St Paul. It's crazy up here
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:16 pm to Furious Styles
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:16 pm to Korkstand
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Looks to me like they have long had an extremely powerful ally in "the media". How is that working out?
That requires people to actually believe the media is credible.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:17 pm to Furious Styles
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National guard activated just now
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:17 pm to Furious Styles
Ive had CNN on now for over 15 mins and they wont go there to show the people doing all this crap.... I wonder why?????????????????????
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Because it's not a legal issue! It's a bunch of cultural issues clashing. Laws can sort out the details of individual cases and ensuring justice there, but it's bigger than that. And it's less black and white than that.
you claim no law could change this, and then you claim they are being "ignored". but how would you define them being ignored as opposed to listened to, if laws wouldn't work?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:18 pm to 50_Tiger
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There's nothing in your statement I disagree with.
The Twitterati is trying to build this up as some revolution akin to The American Revolution.
The AA population is right around 18% (I need to fact check that). A race war is not what's best for America obviously. We need to figure this shite out.
Yeah and to be clear I'm not disagreeing with you either, I just think there are a lot of forces in these movements that are very intentionally obstructing the type of progress we're talking about (rather than idiots just getting in their own way).
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:18 pm to Korkstand
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Looks to me like they have long had an extremely powerful ally in "the media". How is that working out?
The current media aren't their allies. The media are third party "observers" trying to drive ratings to make a buck.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:18 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Nope, I never said anyone has a right to loot, or that they are justified in looting or seeking vengeance. I have only said that it is understandable.
i know cops who have been nearly killed on duty by criminal assholes. does that give me a right to go loot and seek vengeance on any thug looking person on the street?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:18 pm to Korkstand
I’m thinking more arson and riots are coming to a city near you soon. The unraveling of the social fabric
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:19 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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I’m thinking more arson and riots are coming to a city near you soon. The unraveling of the social fabric
Nope.
shite about to get real.
You know this.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:20 pm to dukke v
quote:Right to be pissed? Sure. Right to destroy stuff? No. And neither do these rioters.
OK... So the next time a white person is killed by a black person, the people have the right to be pissed and destroy stuff??????
But it is understandable. And the only way to mitigate some of this stuff in the future is if more of us try to understand.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:21 pm to Korkstand
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But I also don't have a lifetime of pent up anger.
so, if I understand you correctly:
you understand why looter and rioters in Minn are are reacting the way they re because this is the same old story and nothing is changing and they are angry.
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I have only said that it is understandable.
Just want to be clear and bookmark this for the next time the religion of peace strikes yet again.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:22 pm to Korkstand
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. I have only said that it is understandable.
And you are SOOOOOOOOOWRONG here...….
Rules of life.. Don't mess with someone elses shite...…………. Its NOT yours.....
The way you keep sounding is that its ok to destroy things to get what you want just because you are pissed off that someone you never knew or will ever know has been killed.....
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:23 pm to djangochained
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You have something pent up your a-hole dumbass
I mostly just enjoy stirring up shite, but I'm trying to do it in a sensible way!
We can not condone behavior and understand it at the same time. What is so outlandish about that?
Btw thanks again for the mac mini.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:26 pm to DomincDecoco
It's about to get interesting
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The National Guard has been activated in Minnesota.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:28 pm to MrLarson
This guy hollering about they taking the city on this FB Live, gonna see real conflict and strife when the National Guard comes.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:30 pm to Centinel
quote:Well, people are destroying their own community right now, and you'd rather believe it's due to widespread idiocy rather than a legit source of anger.
Oh please enlighten me then.
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