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re: Longest range EV will end up being a full sized pickup truck: 450 miles

Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:33 am to
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:33 am to
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The U-Haul trucks also say you can rent them for $29!


You win the internets today, Sir!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29107 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Where does the electricity come from. People are crazy dumb.
It can come from any source, of course, but I assume you are trying to make a point that most electricity still comes from fossil fuels. But given that a unit of fossil fuel converted to electricity at a power plant and transmitted over power lines to charge an EV can drive the EV further than the same unit of fossil fuel combusted directly in an ICE vehicle, what is so "crazy dumb" about it?
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:57 pm to
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Our existing infrastructure cannot be modified to accommodate hydrogen. No matter what anyone tells you about HDPE, the fusing processes are so incredibly lacking that a switch to hydrogen will blow up so many houses that it’s not even worth talking about. It’s literally starting from scratch.


Lol, why are you putting hydrogen in houses?? Natural gas for residential uses (such as heating and stoves) is going to be phased out for electrical stoves. That is already happening.

Baw hydrogen is the most energy dense liquid fuel (thats not an opinion thats a fact). Technology is currently under development, for not just sustainable production (via multiple pathways), but also down stream use (in energy storage, fuel cells, or drop in combustible fuels). Not only are Fortune 500 companies spending billions in hydrogen research worldwide, but the US Department of Energy's Earthshot Initiative is putting several billions towards the goal of being able to domestically produce hydrogen at less than $1 a kg (which when volumetrically converted is approx. 1 gal) by the end of the decade. Which this is totally bipartisan btw and it was started by Trump, which even the libs and republicans agree on. Trump's administration moved a ton of money from EV to hydrogen.

When it comes to current infrastructure, we don't have all that we need but that is called capitalism and progress. We also didn't have the infrustrure for cell phones but we got on it and created infrusture and jobs. At the end of the day, even though your favorite companies regularly modify plants to suit other uses, a plant will need to be built, or simply modified, just like all the other ones in Baton Rouge and elsewhere, creating jobs and keeping current employees. But the fact of the matter is that pertinent plants, vehicles, and existing infrastructure can and will be modified and it's just a matter of time.

We had to give up leaded gas, we moved on to a different fuel (unleaded is a different fuel). Hydrogen is here, you'll be ok your new 3/4 ton running on hydrogen will produce significantly more torque and horsepower.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14536 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:14 pm to
I bet that bed could fit a lot of bud light
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:54 am to
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There’s data on this:


Yea I trust that lol
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12934 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:23 am to
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Time to full charge on supercharger…30 minutes


I believe that as much as a tranny tells me he is a she.

I used a supercharger for a car, it took 45 minutes to go from 40% to 90%. That was charging at 440 volts and 96 amps. I would think a truck battery would have a larger battery and hence take longer to charge.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:10 am to
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Yea I trust that lol

That’s because you don’t like what it tells you.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9934 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:27 am to
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Range while towing your boat…50 miles


Your boat trailer will have extra batteries but into it to get the truck.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25911 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:42 am to
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45 minutes to go from 40% to 90%. That was charging at 440 volts and 96 amps


I wonder how many charge cycles those batteries would hold up t at those kind of inputs. That’s a shite ton of juice. 42Kw for 40 minutes
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:45 am to
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I wonder how many charge cycles those batteries would hold up t at those kind of inputs. That’s a shite ton of juice. 42Kw for 40 minutes

If you exclusively supercharged you’d end up riding right on the warranties degradation.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:15 am to
You can use survey data to show anything you want.

Sorry if I don’t buy something that a gay man from upstate NY is trying to put out. Dude seems like he hates America and men who like trucks.

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And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less.


So 35% of people who have a truck will only put something in the truck bed one time a year? Yea, that’s bullshite lol
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10273 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:21 am to
That claim seems like bullshite. Maybe half that under normal conditions and that is a stretch.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:46 am to
The data came from Edwards. That article is shite but it is what it is. The vast majority of trucks are brodozer mall crawlers.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53673 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:49 am to
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So 35% of people who have a truck will only put something in the truck bed one time a year? Yea, that’s bullshite lol

I don't tow much with mine but I use my truck bed all the time.

I actually think it would be pretty inconvenient not to have a truck if you are a homeowner and like doing things around the house.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:51 am to
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The data came from Edwards.


I don’t care where it came from. Surveys are surveys.

I’m just not buying that there are 35% of truck owners out there who have put something in their truck bed ONCE in a years time.

That writer def has an axe to grind against America/capitalism/hetero male truck owners. He’ll find stats to back up what he wants to say.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 11:56 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:12 pm to
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pickup trucks may be the greatest examples of overcompensation ever invented.

On cue for libs and anyone that was picked on by a jock
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You Don’t Need A Full-Size Pickup Truck, You Need a Cowboy Costume

“Hey America, you’re stupid!”
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they are also kind of ruining the world. They’re a grotesque addiction. And our unslakable thirst for them is irrational.

See above. Dude is super salty.

This is all in the first two paragraphs.

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Americans are batshit crazy for pickup trucks.

No agenda at all.

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The big problem, like so many things in America, is one of consumption.


“American consumerism and capitalism BAD!”

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Artificially low domestic gas prices, relative to the damage that burning carbon-based fuels wreaks on the planet and its inhabitants,

Ahhhh of course. Protecting the environment was sure to make an appearance at some point.

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I am not the vehicle police. I don't believe in a nanny state.


“No of course I’m not!”

BUT

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I always recommend that people acquire the least amount of vehicle that they think they need, not only to help the earth

“We have to move towards a more greener world!”
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:14 pm to
all that to argue with data that came from Edwards. Did the gay guy hurt your feeling?
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 12:15 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:18 pm to
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ll that to argue with data that came from Edwards. Did the gay guy hurt your feeling?


No he didn’t. But it’s very clear that truck drivers have basically destroyed this dude.

I’ve said, I don’t put any faith in the data, for sure. Stats can say whatever people want them to say. That 35% one is bullshite.

Then I also layer out how unhinged this dude is about trucks and showed you what his agenda is. So of course he’s going to find selected stats to back that up.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52252 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:21 pm to
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I actually think it would be pretty inconvenient not to have a truck if you are a homeowner and like doing things around the house

The best reason to not own a truck is you don’t get hit up regularly to haul shite by folks who don’t own a truck
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18511 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:23 pm to
Yeah he’s a weirdo and it’s a shite article but I trust Edwards along with strategic vision, ford and a ton of other reliable sources that have put out very similar research. Most trucks never get anything more than a couple bags of mulch thrown in them.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 12:24 pm
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