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re: Long term spousal support
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:28 am to McCaigBro69
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:28 am to McCaigBro69
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Don’t cheat on your spouse and it won’t happen? Not that hard of a concept.
I feel really bad when I hear these stories about men cheating after being married a long time
You just know they had to work extra hard with their game being so rusty and all
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:35 am to McCaigBro69
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McCaigBro69
You still mad about what's her face?
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:37 am to jsquardjj
I went to a lawyer once, after they told me what I would have to pay I decided that my wife wasn't that bad.
Men get screwed
Men get screwed
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:39 am to McCaigBro69
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Don’t cheat on your spouse and it won’t happen? Not that hard of a concept.
two wrongs don't make a right. Why should she is she entitled to any of his future earnings and vice versa? I get it that in a split the accumulated wealth during the marriage might be split but to make the guy pay her for years? that's just wrong.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:43 am to jsquardjj
I think one has to pay it for 18 months, after which the receiver has to prove fault. Which can turn ugly and last a very long time! Imagine, Ex's airing out dirty laundry to prove other is at fault for marriage break up!
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:24 am to McCaigBro69
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Don’t cheat on your spouse and it won’t happen? Not that hard of a concept. frick people who cheat.
OK, so if this is the price for cheating, when women cheat on men which ends in a divorce, do the men get 15k a month?
You know they don’t. I know they don’t.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:13 am to jsquardjj
Based on the page linked below, he'll probably just pay some until the divorce is final. The pre-divorce alimony in LA is designed to maintain the status quo standard of living of both spouses.
But post-divorce alimony applies in Louisiana only if the receiving spouse can't even provide herself "basic necessities of life."
Also, the needy spouse must show that he or she is free from fault, but it does not matter whether the paying spouse is at fault. So husband won't have to pay alimony as a "punishment" for cheating. But wife could be barred from getting alimony if she cheated.
Source: Louisiana Divorce FAQs – Alimony
But post-divorce alimony applies in Louisiana only if the receiving spouse can't even provide herself "basic necessities of life."
Also, the needy spouse must show that he or she is free from fault, but it does not matter whether the paying spouse is at fault. So husband won't have to pay alimony as a "punishment" for cheating. But wife could be barred from getting alimony if she cheated.
Source: Louisiana Divorce FAQs – Alimony
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:17 am to McCaigBro69
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Don’t cheat on your spouse and it won’t happen? Not that hard of a concept.
frick people who cheat.
Some states are no fault states (usually not states in the bible belt) and you still have to pay. Colorado has a formula they use so that the spouse "maintains their style of living". You pay according to your income for half the duration you were married. The woman could have stolen all your savings and fricked half the state's population and you will still pay.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 8:18 am
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:24 am to mahdragonz
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He should have thought about his wallet before swimming in his side piece's pool.
He's gonna pay.
Research no fault divorce states. The man gets screwed over in these states no matter what happened during the marriage.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:34 am to Mike da Tigah
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Because humans can’t live on anything less than 15k a month and live in anything less than a 700k home. Seriously... WTF has happened to human beings?
It's not about what one can live on, its maintaining the lifestyle that they were accustomed to while in the marriage.
Until we change the archaic divorce laws in this country we'll have to deal with shite like that.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:42 am to Phil A Sheo
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It's not about what one can live on, its maintaining the lifestyle that they were accustomed to while in the marriage.
Until we change the archaic divorce laws in this country we'll have to deal with shite like that.
This. People really can't grasp how bad the bread winner can get screwed over in a divorce until they actually go through one.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:53 am to redstick13
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Some states are no fault states (usually not states in the bible belt) and you still have to pay. Colorado has a formula they use so that the spouse "maintains their style of living". You pay according to your income for half the duration you were married. The woman could have stolen all your savings and fricked half the state's population and you will still pay.
It blows my mind that more people don't enter into prenuptual agreements that limit what spousal support the wife is entitled to, especially in this day and age.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:40 am to Jim Smith
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I know someone in CA that has to pay a large amount of spousal support for the rest of their fricking life. Unbelievable.
If she gets remarried he won't be or most likely even if she starts long term cohabitation with someone else.
Reading their law, I'm very skeptical that he was ordered to pay for the rest of his life. More likely he was ordered to pay with no defined end date which theoretically could mean the rest of her life. But unless she literally has no marketable skills and can't work he's not going to be paying forever. If she doesn't have any marketable skills and can't work, he probably shouldn't have hitched himself to that wagon. Either that or it was a 40yr marriage and they're in their late 60s or something.
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The goal that the supported party shall be self-supporting within a reasonable period of time. Except in the case of a marriage of long duration as described in Section 4336, a “reasonable period of time” for purposes of this section generally shall be one-half the length of the marriage. However, nothing in this section is intended to limit the court’s discretion to order support for a greater or lesser length of time, based on any of the other factors listed in this section, Section 4336, and the circumstances of the parties.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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the spouse who receives it has to prove he/she was free from fault, which is a REALLY high standard
But what constitutes "fault" in Louisiana? Does the receiver have to prove he/she is free from fault, or does the payor have to prove the receiver IS at fault? According to the FAQ someone linked...
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There are no statutory guidelines for deciding what constitutes “fault” for purposes of alimony, however, courts have routinely used jurisprudence and former articles of the Civil Code Articles dealing with “fault” in the context of divorce to decide the issue.
So does the payor have to prove one of the things listed in Louisiana Civil Code 103, with the definition of "alimony-related fault" being the same as it is in terms of a "fault divorce"? Fault in the sense of a fault divorce generally boils down to photographic evidence of cheating, felonies, or abuse. That's a pretty heavy burden of fault to have to prove in court, which is a huge difference from the receiver having the burden of proving they had no "fault" in the common sense in the breakup of the marriage.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the spouse who receives it has to prove he/she was free from fault, which is a REALLY high standard
Being free from fault isn't that high of a standard to prove. It is actually rather easy to prove you were free of fault.
Usually, people who want permanent spousal support have trouble satisfying the requirement that they have a need for it. As you said, it's usually temporary.
But as far as interim spousal support goes, that's almost always granted regardless of whether the requesting party was at fault.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:59 pm to danilo
I understand 2 maybe 3 years then she's on her own.
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