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re: Lockdowns had little or no impact on COVID-19 deaths, new study shows

Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:04 pm to
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The general public couldn't even be bothered with the simple measures

Did "the simple measures" really do anything?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:07 pm to
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Honest question, how many people here have actually been subjected to an actual lockdown?


Literally every person on this board
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:07 pm to
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Its not from John Hopkins, one author is a prof at John Hopkins.


It's like a while back when someone posted a "study"from Stanford that masks or vaccines were ineffective, when it was just someone associated with Stanford and the school came out saying they weren't endorsing the findings at all.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:09 pm to
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Did "the simple measures" really do anything?


Did for us. We mask, try to social distance when possible, still living our lives but making decisions when it seemed prudent, I'm going to the office, daughter is in public school, and we haven't caught it once, and more importantly, haven't passed it on to anyone else.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:10 pm to
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Why didn't it include any of the multitude of studies showing the effectiveness of lockdowns in their meta analysis?


Where are these “multitude” of studies?
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:13 pm to
-Suicide skyrocketing
-Drug abuse and overdoses higher than ever. Overwhelmingly pharmaceutical induced to boot
-Severe depression higher than ever
-Livelihoods and businesses lost
-So much financial ruin
-Domestic Violence and Rape becoming inescapable
-Mortgages foreclosed
-Stress on families leading to divorce
-Valuable educational YEARS lost for kids in important developmental stages that they will never get back

This can go on and on. And for what? For money and manipulative control. The federal and local government has never had more blood on it’s hands against it’s own citizens then ever in our history and they will never be held accountable.

It’s amazing that the fear mongering is still just as prevalent as it’s ever been and will continue.

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:16 pm to
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and more importantly, haven't passed it on to anyone else.


And you know this how? what a looney tune some of you people are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:17 pm to
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-Valuable educational YEARS lost for kids in important developmental stages that they will never get back

Lost IQ, too.

These lockdowns have done irreparable damage to a generation of schoolchildren, with the most likely groups to be affected the most being BIPOC/Lower SES
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:19 pm to
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These lockdowns have done irreparable damage to a generation of schoolchildren, with the most likely groups to be affected the most being BIPOC/Lower SES


And get ready for the people who adamantly supported the lockdowns to blame those who adamantly opposed the lockdowns for the consequences of this loss of education.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:20 pm to
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And you know this how?


It's pretty easy.
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:24 pm to
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It's pretty easy.


Go ahead and explain how you know for a fact that you haven’t passed a virus known to have many asymptomatic carriers? Are you contact tracing every single person you interact with? This is just some bullshite virtue signaling
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:31 pm to
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And get ready for the people who adamantly supported the lockdowns to blame those who adamantly opposed the lockdowns for the consequences of this loss of education.

Yes they are going with the "you delayed a return to normalcy" lie or the "the achievement gap doesn't exist" lie the teachers' unions are promoting
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:37 pm to
Health care still doesn’t “treat it.” They send you home until you’re sick enough to need hospitalization, then they treat you with a standard “protocol” that may or may not help you.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:38 pm to
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Once we knew what to look for on CT, all of those patients had Covid based on CT. Unfortunately, at that time, the antibody testing was terrible so we couldn’t prove it that


Looking back I was so very fortunate to have a Dr. that was on her A game. She immediately was like I’ve seen this before and I’ve seen it a lot lately and did a chest x-ray and I had the tell tale crinkled glass. Had that persistent dog cough for about 2 weeks until it turned into a cement mixer in my chest. Even though I had bilateral pneumonia there was no mention of admittance, can’t imagine how that would have turned out a month to 6 weeks later.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:39 pm to
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This is absolutely incorrect, just Google it. The Flu shot limits your chances of getting the flu by as much as 70%. The Covid vaccine is the only vaccine out there that does nothing to prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus.



Where are you seeing these studies? There hasn't been a flu vaccine that has reached 60% vaccine effectiveness since 2010. Also the smallpox vaccine had a breakthrough infection rate of around 30%. When measles was endemic, there was also a high breakthrough rate, if I recall, and we could see that again if measles vaccination falls below 90%.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:44 pm to
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Science should be untainted by politics, but unfortunately that is no longer the case.



People keep saying this earnestly, but the rise of what is called 'Big Science' started before WWII, with people like Ernest Lawrence playing an instrumental role. Arguably, the days of science untainted by politics never really existed.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:46 pm to
And yet, no acknowledgement from the powers that be that they overreacted, not even an oops my bad.

Just keep doing the same stupid shite we did at the beginning of this shite.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:49 pm to
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It was people like you who were whining about "my kids can't even play in the front yard" when nobody ever said that either.



Well I dont have kids so you just made that shite up

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The general public couldn't even be bothered with the simple measures, much less a lockdown (something I've not once been a proponent of).


Dude, more than once you have been on here bitching about people not changing their daily lives to accommodate your kid that is "immune-compromised".

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Honest question, how many people here have actually been subjected to an actual lockdown?



I like how you try to qualify it by saying "actual lockdowns". Plenty of people have suffered due to lockdowns. A lockdown doesn't have to be like it is in Nazi-occupied Australia to affect people. Just one example is that thousands of small businesses have been lost. Is that not a lockdown IYO?

The effects of the lockdowns, no matter how minor or severe, are there to varying degrees if you don't have your head up your arse.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 7:51 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:55 pm to
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Lockdowns initially was key.


It was not. In fact, it was poorly conceived and executed. A nationwide lockdown for a virus which was only affecting certain areas was idiotic. We didn't even spend that time building up state capacity for supplies or medicines. It was just retarded in every conceivable way.

You can't separate the morphology of a pathogen from the strategy of trying to contain it. What I mean is that if there was viral exanthem which could be considered pathognomonic, then there is no need for testing, and the patient could immediately either seek care or go into isolation to prevent transmission (depending on transmission route). But COVID is a virus with multiple transmission routes with no pathognomonic sign or consistent presentation. Thus an early lockdown didn't make any sense, because the distribution of the virus wasn't even across the country, and we didn't really deal with it then. Instead we created some insane economic and social conditions which will require a long period of time to fix.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:57 pm to
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and social conditions


My favorite has always been curfews and how the virus won't affect you while you are sitting down eating but only outside.
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