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re: Local St. Amant HS teacher to become famous?

Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:46 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:46 am to
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The only problem I see in teachers expressing themselves would be when a teacher seeks to squash students who do not align with their beliefs.



in todays world thats exactly whats going on and I cant be in the classroom to monitor what they are teaching/preaching


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Playing the "Devil's Advocate" actually helps students learn to become free thinkers.



Thats not whats going on

Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:49 am to
Just thought of something.

How Ironic is it that we forbid teachers from talking politics but schools are named after former Presidents/Founding Fathers?

I agree that teachers shouldn't press beliefs on their students.
But it's a gray area if English teachers/students can debate and share their own interpretations of a book.

Then, Why can't a Civics/History/Sociology teacher engage with and debate their students on foreign policy?
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:50 am to
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It breaks the rules of her employment.

Furthermore, I'm of the opinion that her personal beliefs have no business being discussed in the classroom, especially a theater teacher.


I agree that if it breaks the rules of her employment she should be reprimanded.

I also agree elementary teachers should shy away from direct expression of political slant as their student's are not old enough to reflect and disagree.

But teachers are trained that they are "educators first" and stakekholders in a student's overall success. Regardless of the subject they actually teach.

It is a good thing to expose young minds to wide ranging beliefs and perspectives.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:50 am to
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Her opinion doesn't matter because she blindly protests the president because he isn't a Democrat.

People on both sides of the political system do this.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65577 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:51 am to
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The only problem I see in teachers expressing themselves would be when a teacher seeks to squash students who do not align with their beliefs.



quote:

Playing the "Devil's Advocate" actually helps students learn to become free thinkers.



The man said that his kids came home relaying the message that their teachers have said that America is in "big trouble" if Trump gets elected. So...



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Thats not whats going on




Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:52 am to
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People on both sides of the political system do this.



True, and those opinions that blindly follow the Republican party shouldn't count either.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:52 am to
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Why would you fire someone for that?
The libs have been getting people fired for people speaking their mind when it isnt the PC thing to say for a decade. Time to reverse the tide.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:53 am to
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How Ironic is it that we forbid teachers from talking politics but schools are named after former Presidents/Founding Fathers?


I don't find that to be ironic at all.

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Then, Why can't a Civics/History/Sociology teacher engage with and debate their students on foreign policy?


That's not what's happening here.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:53 am to
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Not in south Louisiana


So if a teacher did the same thing to something with Obama on it and posted it on social media there should be no repercussions? It's a two way street, a person with authority and influence openly disrespecting the office of the president and posting it on social media present a litany of problems for her/himself. On top of that, last time I checked St Amant is a public school, meaning that the teacher is a government employee. Government employees generally have stipulations in their code of ethics strictly prohibiting derogatory, political, lewd, or illegal activity on their social media accounts.

It's not a red state blue state thing. It's a complete disregard for your position and the code of ethics you take on in that position. She is within her rights to participate in the march, and even post about it. She can flip off Trump all day, just don't be an idiot and post it on social media. IMO, she should be gone.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48419 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:54 am to
Expressing her political opinion is one thing

Flipping off a building with our new POTUS name on it is just stupid and she should, at minimum, issue a public apology for being so inconsiderate of the young people that see her rant.

She shouldn't be fired unless she's had other incidents that we may not know of.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:55 am to
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People on both sides of the political system do this.

Republicans don't really protest very much. Democrats use any excuse to protest. It's almost like their hobby.
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
35690 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:55 am to
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So if a teacher did the same thing to something with Obama on it and posted it on social media there should be no repercussions?


In St. Amant?
Seriously?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65577 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:56 am to
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Expressing her political opinion is one thing

Flipping off a building with our new POTUS name on it is just stupid and she should, at minimum, issue a public apology for being so inconsiderate of the young people that see her rant.

She shouldn't be fired unless she's had other incidents that we may not know of.





I can dig it.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43530 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:57 am to
This is clearly a case of "Actions have consequences."
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:58 am to
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Thats not whats going on


In some cases.

I will also tell you that my kids coming home decrying "Common Core" because their teachers openly complain about it would also violate the "no political expressions" stance.

My kids have come home telling me a teacher said the same thing about Obama being reelected. "The country is in big trouble"

Lunchbox had already said yes but would the rest of you be as offended?

Not all teachers are liberal snowflakes. Hell I have a few teachers blowing my FB feed up with pro-trump/anti-hillary items all the time.

Diversity in thought is a good thing for the education of our youth.

Just so you know, I voted for Trump and consider myself to be a moderate republican.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:58 am to
There were 2.9 Million protestors many were university faculty, teachers, etc..from all disciplines and walks of life.

I know at least 16 professors on my facebook feed alone who were at the marches, however I doubt any of them would be sticking out their middle finge
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:01 am to
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Republicans don't really protest very much










Glenn Beck rally:

This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:01 am to
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I don't find that to be ironic at all.


Because you're fricking stupid.


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That's not what's happening here.


She Flipped off a Trump-owned building.
My subsequent question was just about the philosophy behind the decision to keep politics out of classrooms.

But do you... argue frickING EVERYTHING.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64012 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:02 am to
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Why would you fire someone for that?


Violating the school board's code of conduct and being a shitty role model for the kids you teach would be my guess.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:02 am to
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Republicans don't really protest very much.
The Tea Party says hello.
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