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Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:59 am to Buck_Rogers
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So, anxiety is not a symptom of a problem?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes anxiety is a symptom of a problem or secondary to a primary condition. And sometimes anxiety is just anxiety. That's where the psychiatrist and psychologist/therapist come into play.
A therapist can define/diagnose the problem and offer cognitive behavioral therapy. If you need psychotropic drugs, a psychiatrist is the best person for this.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:02 pm to TigerPanzer
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How can you control "this shite" when the problem is neurochemical imbalances in your brain, primarily serotonin and norepinephrine?
But how does one determine from a conversation or questionnaire that the patient is definitely lacking one or both of these neurotransmitters? Does he need an SSRI, SNRI, or NRI? Doctors seem to like to bounce people from one SSRI to another. They all take weeks to provide a therapeutic effect, and in the interim you experience the lovely side effects while still retaining that feeling of hopelessness as the Dr. runs down his nicely prioritized list of pharma reps. Honestly, to me there's nothing more depressing than the inability to ejaculate.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:08 pm to TigerPanzer
I still think they're for pussies who look for the easy way out.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:08 pm to TigerPanzer
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"pills are for pussies" morons
Many uneducated people in the world.
However, many people find their way off of anti depressants and lead successful lives by therapy and willpower. I suggest both before resorting to drugs. Even while on the dugs, therapy can be a useful tool to self realization, often times reducing depression by numerous orders of magnitude, leading to being able to lessen or eliminate the need for drugs.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:09 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I take the off-brand version of lexapro...no side effects at all for me.
same here
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:13 pm to Tiger Nation 84
frick psyche medicine
Nope nope nope nope
Nope nope nope nope
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:18 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Doctors seem to like to bounce people from one SSRI to another. They all take weeks to provide a therapeutic effect, and in the interim you experience the lovely side effects while still retaining that feeling of hopelessness as the Dr. runs down his nicely prioritized list of pharma reps.
This is a bit unfair. It's not like there is a drug that takes effect in a day or two that we are withholding. And when it comes from "bouncing them from one to another," it's usually a preference thing and what the doc is comfortable with.
Medicine is an art, unfortunately. If it weren't, most doctors would be replaced by flow charts and computer programs; they would only be needed for procedures, really. If someone is a little bit on the lethargic side, there are a couple of antidepressants that kind of "boost" your energy a bit. There are some that are a bit milder when it comes to that. It's all based on each doctor and patient's experience. Usually, in my experience, patients ask for something different rather than the doctor just saying one day, "you've been on X a while, let's go with Y for a bit." And there's really no good way to tell how someone is going to react to psych/neuro/brain meds.
When speaking of Major Depressive Episodes, they usually last less than two weeks. Most SSRIs take about two weeks to ramp up. Many people would be back to "normal" without them. Many more would not. If you've ever had a doctor try to pull you off of one about 6mo after starting, that's why. What's really unfortunate is that a combination of CBT and counseling (especially with a drug for a short period, too) would really help people turn the corner, but it's very expensive and so few people do it compared to the demand.
This is all really generic speak and doesn't apply to all conditions for which S(S/N)RIs are prescribed. But realize that a good doctor doesn't just throw a script out at you and change it willy nilly. If you feel this is the case, I urge you to find a new doctor.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:20 pm to Tiger Nation 84
I started on Fluoxetine (Prozac) about 4-5 months back for anxiety issues while coupling it with a bit of therapy. In reflection, it had been a chronic issue since I was a kid but I never knew any better and masked it by abusing alcohol/drugs when placed in any sort of social situation.
I can honestly say my quality of life has increased 100% since then so it has certainly worked well for me. But as stated earlier in the thread, each medication work differently for different folks.
I can honestly say my quality of life has increased 100% since then so it has certainly worked well for me. But as stated earlier in the thread, each medication work differently for different folks.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:21 pm to Buck_Rogers
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I still think they're for pussies who look for the easy way out.
I think that you've probably got very limited experience in this field and don't quite have an appreciation for mental illness.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:27 pm to Buck_Rogers
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I still think they're for pussies who look for the easy way out.
Very simplified way of looking at it.
I suffer from depression but I am on no drugs and I do not go to counseling. I personally found that learning to recognize the signs of an episode and counteracting them by forcing myself to do things to distract me or meditation and internalization is the way to go for me. It is hard to do, but every time I do it, I find that it is easier the next time. Been this way for 5 years now after voluntarily quitting the pills.
Now, maybe my personal brand of "fricked up in the head" is less severe than others, but it is the method I use. So For people with my level of depression or lower, I kind of tend to agree with you.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:29 pm to Tiger Nation 84
I'm honestly surprised 25mg of Zoloft did anything to you. I don't even think that's considered a therapeutic dose. You must be very sensitive to medication. Have you considered Cognitive Behavioral Therapy instead? It's not 'digging into your childhood' type therapy, it's much better when it comes to anxiety.
With that being said, Zoloft did wonders for me and my anxiety. Lexapro made me bat shite crazy like you said. Maybe since Zoloft had that effect on you, Lexapro will work. So hard to say with these medications. You have to give them at least two weeks (often longer) to work and get over the bad side effects.
With that being said, Zoloft did wonders for me and my anxiety. Lexapro made me bat shite crazy like you said. Maybe since Zoloft had that effect on you, Lexapro will work. So hard to say with these medications. You have to give them at least two weeks (often longer) to work and get over the bad side effects.
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:29 pm to Hopeful Doc
No, he is just a mouth breathing idiot
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:30 pm to Hopeful Doc
I speak from experience and out of remorse for not speaking up in the past. I have many buddies who witnessed things along with myself. Back in the 70's and 80's it was a crap shoot with pills and many of my brothers suffered much worse consequences as many do now. I speak from experiences I've had when many of you weren't even a gleam in your daddy's eye yet. Life is tough. Deal with it face to face and you will be a better person.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:36 pm to Buck_Rogers
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Deal with it face to face and you will be a better person.
Not a single thing about requiring psychiatric medications makes one less of a person.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:37 pm to Buck_Rogers
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I speak from experience and out of remorse for not speaking up in the past. I have many buddies who witnessed things along with myself. Back in the 70's and 80's it was a crap shoot with pills and many of my brothers suffered much worse consequences as many do now. I speak from experiences I've had when many of you weren't even a gleam in your daddy's eye yet. Life is tough. Deal with it face to face and you will be a better person.
Or...you know...folks could utilize modern medicine to seek help for a diagnosed medical condition and live a happy, successful life.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:38 pm to TigerPanzer
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Lexapro
Prepare to never bust a nut again That was the only side effect I experienced while on it..
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:39 pm to Hopeful Doc
Then pop your pills and go cry to your mommy because "life is shitty" when you probably haven't a clue of what that really means.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:41 pm to TigerPanzer
trazadone.
also for depression. I have not noticed any side effects except I go right to sleep after I take it unless I fight it, so its a win win, easy to sleep.
drugs.com
also for depression. I have not noticed any side effects except I go right to sleep after I take it unless I fight it, so its a win win, easy to sleep.
drugs.com
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What is trazodone?
Trazodone is an antidepressant medicine. It affects chemicals in the brain that may become unbalanced and cause depression.
Trazodone is used to treat major depressive disorder.
Trazodone may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide.
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