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re: Letter to the Reveille: LSU Greeks should have 'Day of disobedience on game day.'
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:58 am to Volvagia
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:58 am to Volvagia
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It's murky at best.
Because at the end of the day, the SECOND a greek organization renounces their charter, LSU has no power over them.
So if a group of them have gone inactive by not paying dues, and meetup on the parade ground and tailgate...is it a univeristy event?
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:58 am to magildachunks
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At least the ANTIFA pussies have balls.
Greek vs. ANTIFA hosted on the Parade Grounds on Gameday would be a fight I would pay to see.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:59 am to Volvagia
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If this act is really that unconstitutional, where are the lawsuits?
LSU hasnt disciplined anyone for simply associating, yet. They'd have to have standing to sue.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:02 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:01 am to Errerrerrwere
I heard a bunch of GDIs were gonna take over the parade grounds. Gonna be a rumble!!!
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:02 am to Volvagia
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It is a ruling against people who FREELY CHOSE TO ASSOCIATE WITH CAMPUS DIRECTIVES AND ARE FREE TO LEAVE THAT ASSOCIATION AT ANY TIME.
And those campus directives must be constitutional, because it is a state university. If it was a private university, your argument would have more weight.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:03 am to Motorboat
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I heard a bunch of GDIs were gonna take over the parade grounds. Gonna be a rumble!!!
Heard the Flag Burner of 2011 is coming back with a vengeance and a posse.
eta: Psychoanalysis wants to see it devolve.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:05 am to CptBengal
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So if a group of them have gone inactive by not paying dues, and meetup on the parade ground and tailgate...is it a univeristy event?
Why don't you wait to see if that happens before just making it up and using it as a baseline of an argument.
Especially when you respond to what I said with something that has nothing to do with what I said.
"Going inactive" or entering "probation" is not "renouncing their charter."
Again, if what LSU is doing is so clearly unconstitutional, getting an injunction against them would be incredibly easy. All this is hemming and hawing is hot air as far a "constitutional rights" goes.
But lets all continue with the arguments flavored with buzz words. "Blah blah blah due process blah blah blah free speech."
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:05 am to LSUGrad9295
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How about the Greeks STFU for a while and let all this die down? Maybe come up with some ways to police yourselves and make sure kids don't die at your hands. And maybe realize that the only people who care about your plight and your "civil liberties being violated" are you yourselves. The rest of us would just like for you to go away.
So since 1988, 2 kids have died due to "fraternity activities. 2 in almost 30 years. How many greeks have gone through LSU in 30 years? How many activities have they participated in? Why demonize the entire greek system because of isolated incidents?
I'd be willing to bet that the number of deaths from the general student population from "partying" would be equal to the same amount in that time period. Are you calling for all students to stop doing things college students do?
Stop generalizing groups. If the problem is systemic, then that's one thing. But seeing as these tragic deaths are outliers, let's not lump people into categories.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:05 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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One organization of about 50 was invlolved, but thousands are being punished for something they had no part in.
We'll grow some balls and get all Animal House on them this Saturday. Make it something funny, clever and memorable - not destructive or violent. The King is making y'all look like a bunch of bitches.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:06 am to magildachunks
I think it's funny that the Greek system has students so pissy and butthurt (I think this applies here) over these mandates handed down by our POS university president.
I guess we are all supposed to think that Greek life is SOOOOO important and integral to a well-run university. Their role in promoting a fine campus is minimal, at best. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see 'them' try to draw a line in the sand, or even threaten to get litigious. That would be something 'they' would do.
A kid died...under the watch of a fraternity...and because of the actions of fraternity members...
...but they want to bitch and moan about constitutional rights. Maxwell Gruver had rights too, but unfortunately nobody in that house spoke up for his rights when he was being hazed...
I guess we are all supposed to think that Greek life is SOOOOO important and integral to a well-run university. Their role in promoting a fine campus is minimal, at best. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see 'them' try to draw a line in the sand, or even threaten to get litigious. That would be something 'they' would do.
A kid died...under the watch of a fraternity...and because of the actions of fraternity members...
...but they want to bitch and moan about constitutional rights. Maxwell Gruver had rights too, but unfortunately nobody in that house spoke up for his rights when he was being hazed...
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:10 am to NYNolaguy1
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And those campus directives must be constitutional, because it is a state university. If it was a private university, your argument would have more weight.
See above, about how if it had an ounce of weight, LSU would have already been served. Obviously the OT Constitutional scholars are missing something....
And I am willing to bet it is the FREE CHOICE MADE TO SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO THE DECISIONS OF THE UNIVERSITY.
If they attempted to ban all clubs on campus other than officially sanctioned ones, I would be right with ya'll bitching about the trample on the Constitution.
But they are not.
Greek's enjoy a privileged position due to their agreeing to be subject of administrative decisions. You can't have your cake and eat it too; crying about your civil rights when said administration uses the power you freely agreed to in a manner you don't like.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:11 am to Volvagia
WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS BRO.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:11 am to TexasTiger08
I find it funny that people like you support punishing every individual not involved for the actions of a few who were.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:12 am to Supermoto Tiger
No shite. Quit crying and make the Deathmobile, assholes.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:13 am to StealthCalais11
For emphasis.
That's why only short strings of it are such, and it was more convenient than bolding it.
That's why only short strings of it are such, and it was more convenient than bolding it.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:13 am to TexasTiger08
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A kid died...under the watch of a fraternity...and because of the actions of fraternity members...
...but they want to bitch and moan about constitutional rights. Maxwell Gruver had rights too, but unfortunately nobody in that house spoke up for his rights when he was being hazed...
It's sad that he died, but nobody outside of the Phi Delt house had anything to do with it. They have no evidence of others doing the same thing. There is absolutely no reason for activities to be suspended right now.
What good does a "Week of Reflection" do? Every Greek I know has just spent the ween pissed at the administration. If you're not hazing kids and/or forcing them to chug alcohol, what exactly do you have to reflect on?
Besides, most of these young kids go get way more fricked up on a Monday night at Reggies than any fraternity would ever dream of letting them get under their watch.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:14 am to TexasTiger08
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I guess we are all supposed to think that Greek life is SOOOOO important and integral to a well-run university.
Um, once alumni donations dry up, you'd see how important "greek life" is. Do the current students contribute that much? About as much as LSU student council body. But it's what they do once they graduate and become professionals. Several buildings on campus are named after Greek Alumni.
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A kid died...under the watch of a fraternity...and because of the actions of fraternity members...
Not because of the actions of all fraternity members. Phi delt had their charter revoked, and kicked off campus. Criminal investigation is under way. I'd say that just about wraps up the responsible parties of the death, why go after EVERY GREEK? It makes no sense, unless the President of the college is trying to make the campus greek free, which was something that was in the works back when i was in college. Not far fetched to see that trend continuing some 12-13 years since i graduated.
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Maxwell Gruver had rights too, but unfortunately nobody in that house spoke up for his rights when he was being hazed...
What does that anything to do with greek members outside of the responsible party?
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:14 am to Volvagia
No one cares
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:15 am to TigersSEC2010
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If you're not hazing kids and/or forcing them to chug alcohol, what exactly do you have to reflect on?
How shitty the school officials are.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:17 am to StealthCalais11
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No one cares
This would be true if I was shouting to a silent room.
Except I am not.
Outside of a two line post absent of any emphasis every post has been in direct response to one directed to one of mine.
Including your post expending effort to show that you didn't care.
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