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re: Let's Do It Again: Severe Threat 3/30 - Line of Severe Storms leaving SELA. AL in it now

Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:57 am to
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10845 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:57 am to
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nothing burger

False. Someone is going to get something. Do you not believe in lotteries because only one person out of 30 million wins?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144296 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:58 am to
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Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
I’ll start with a direct copy and paste from the Storm Prediction Center…
“A regional outbreak of severe thunderstorms is expected on Wednesday
across the Lower Mississippi Valley and Southeast States. All severe
hazards are possible, including significant gusts over 75 mph and
strong (EF2+) tornadoes.”

That’s some pretty rough wording, as they’ve upgraded a large chunk of our area to a level 4 of 5, moderate risk for severe weather. My concern is also ramping up a bit, as those high resolution models show an interesting evolution of how this all goes down on Wednesday. Here’s what I’m seeing.

First off, like last week, parameters for severe weather are very high. Instability is a bit lower, but wind shear might actually be a bit higher than last week due to a stronger low pressure to our north. That intense low pressure will bring a continuous 20-35 mph wind from the south southeast, with gusts to 50+ possible, even away from storms. That, couple with a southwest flow several thousand feet above the ground means strong directional, and speed shear will be present. Couple that with “enough” instability, and there will be a risk for tornadoes, a couple of those tornadoes could be strong, and there is potential for widespread wind gusts in the 50-80 mph range. I can’t stress this enough, it’s going to be very windy tomorrow. There will be power outages. Not for everyone, and probably not some crazy long term thing, but with widespread wind, even if it were only in the 50-60 mph range, we would see scattered outages. The tornado threat will be much more isolated, but with the extreme low level shear, you’ll want to seek shelter if you find yourself in a warning tomorrow, as it only takes one tornado to cause huge problems.

The reason I’m a bit more concerned than yesterday, is that it looks like this could end up being a broken squall line instead of a solid line of storms. That would mean short line segments, or individual supercells along a line. Since these storms won’t be right along a sharp cold front with intense surface convergence, I’m concerned that this might happen. This would increase the tornado threat if we see these isolated cells, and shorter line segments. Most areas will see 1/2 to 2 inches of rain, which is manageable, so this system will be all about the severe threat. I’ll do a stream later on to go over this if that’s your thing. It goes without saying that I’ll be updating things often. But look at that, I said it anyway.


Posted by paperwasp
25x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
27056 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:02 am to
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Supercell tracks on the 6z HRRR

Looks like that convective system Roll Tide Ravens is pointing out is going to outrun the instability by the time it gets to us in central Alabama.

Guessing our concern here is more wind-related.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10845 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:04 am to
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There will be power outages.

I’m pretty much banking on that here in central Alabama, especially since Alabama Power spends all of their money buying members of the Public Service Commission to keep our rates high instead of burying lines. We lost power for a week from Zeta!
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48892 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:06 am to
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Duke & RTR... y'all need to stop making these people spend more time with these terrible chirrens


I just don't get why people who think that there isn't going to be any bad weather come into these threads and whine/complain. If they think it's a nothing burger, they should just ignore the weather threads and go about their lives without any concern about the weather. Afterall, it's going to be a nothing burger (in their opinion) so there is no reason to pay it any attention.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48892 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:09 am to
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Looks like that convective system Roll Tide Ravens is pointing out is going to outrun the instability by the time it gets to us in central Alabama.

Guessing our concern here is more wind-related.

For the most part, yes, probably so. There will be a narrow tongue of instability just ahead of the line, but not the widespread area of unstable air that we typically have on spring severe weather days. I think there will probably be some spin-ups embedded in the squall line, and SPC does note the possibility of a strong tornado or two (EF-2 or stronger) across MS and into western AL. But yes, the damaging straight line wind is the headlining story.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83738 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:10 am to
Thank you Duke

useful and informative as always
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108295 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:12 am to
So, BR in the moderate risk again.

Timing?

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45718 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:13 am to
Duke, I’m seeing stormcast talk about 50-60mph gusts all day tomorrow. Is that really possible?
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6881 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:13 am to
Looks like Dallas in in the clear on this one. You baws to the east stay safe.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37053 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:14 am to
Why would it not be possible?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45718 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:15 am to
Because 50-60mph non-thunderstorm gusts for hours ahead of the weather is extremely rare in our part of the world. We’re not in Kansas. That happens and we’re looking at decent sized power outages across the area before the storms even arrive. It would be like a tropical storm in March.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 10:17 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:19 am to
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Duke, I’m seeing stormcast talk about 50-60mph gusts all day tomorrow. Is that really possible?


All day? Probably not but its going to be very windy and those numbers arent out of the realm of reasonable.

A lot over 40 mph are likely for a big portion of the day. The gusts increasing to 50s would probably be just ahead of the line by an hour or two as the gradient tightens.

Gusts into the 60s arent off the table either.

I think the NWS pulls the trigger on a high wind warning this afternoon.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45718 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:20 am to
Damn, that’s impressive. Tomorrows gonna be an interesting day for sure.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48892 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:21 am to
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Duke, I’m seeing stormcast talk about 50-60mph gusts all day tomorrow. Is that really possible?


I'm not Duke, but yes, there are going to be very strong pressure gradient winds tomorrow that are not related to the storms. For instance, NWS Birmingham is talking about gusts to 40-50mph tomorrow across central Alabama.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37053 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:21 am to
I figured they way they were describing this ITT, power outages were a given. People better
Put away their trampolines!!
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45718 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:25 am to
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Put away their trampolines!!

I’ll be sure to put mine in the shed
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71827 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:28 am to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45718 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:30 am to
Tanden who? Let’s get Mr. Bingle!
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14709 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 10:31 am to
NAM seems to like discrete storms ahead of the line

HRRR not so much
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