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re: Let’s discuss colonizing Mars. Why?
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:49 am to Volvagia
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:49 am to Volvagia
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Why are we equating “colonizing” with exploration and research? Even if there is a long term manned station there it’s not colonization.
And the moon is the stepping stone, not Mars. It’s why the big project to put a refueling space station in lunar orbit is called “Gateway”
Our moon is our best testing and proving ground for long term space exploration and research. It's a much better commute than Mars.
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How do we terraform Venus?
https://phys.org/news/2014-07-terraform-venus.html
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 4:42 pm
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:13 am to Covingtontiger77
I am guessing Columbus heard arguments similar to this too.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:11 pm to Covingtontiger77
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1) humans would have to be supported at all times by an artificial bubble in order to survive
2) all needs would have to be met artificially - food and water
3) psychologically how would it be healthy for a human to never be able to go outside nor breathe natural air?
4) As a launching point to other planets this too seems like a falsehood. No proof of any other planets that could support life have been discovered.
So aside from being cool to say humans went there, what’s the point in estalblishing a colony on an inhabitable planet ?
If it is anything like space exploration to this point getting there is about 1/1000 of the reason...the main reason is the amount of innovative technology that is developed to do such things. NASA has been one of the largest driving economic engines ever known to man. The crap we have today that are a result of that spending makes the dollar amount spent seem miniscule. Such programs average close to a 4/1 return on investment.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:12 pm to BPTiger
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Why explore Antarctica? Why explore the Mariana Trench? Why climb Everest or K2? The human spirit baw.
This is the other side of the equation. Its what man has always done when he had the resources and technology.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:49 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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Biden is brain dead.
If he had just been honest about the kind of woman he wanted, he would've had a better time.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:53 pm to Covingtontiger77
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So aside from being cool to say humans...
That's the only purpose of the entire space program.
There's no practical benefit whatsoever.
People can blab about the space program producing Tang and velcro and this that and the other technological innovation, but there's no reason we couldn't have invented them to fill the needs that they actually fulfill instead of inventing them to send people to the moon or Mars or some shite.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:56 pm to Covingtontiger77
The technological advances that would be achieved just to TRY and make this feasible would advance society by an almost incalculable degree.
It would eventually change every aspect of your life.
It would eventually change every aspect of your life.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:56 pm to wackatimesthree
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There's no practical benefit whatsoever.
Wrong
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:01 pm to Covingtontiger77
I take it you have never seen a little movie called Total Recall?
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:16 pm to Covingtontiger77
Mankind will have to branch out into space if he plans on surviving long term. our rate of consumption of resources will catch up with us and we wont be able to maintain our current standard of living.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:17 pm to Covingtontiger77
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2) all needs would have to be met artificially - food and water
That is incorrect.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:01 pm to Covingtontiger77
I think it would be a great place to populate with Democrats! Their out-of-this world ideas and pollcies would fit well.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:32 pm to Covingtontiger77
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2) all needs would have to be met artificially - food and water
Not really
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3) psychologically how would it be healthy for a human to never be able to go outside nor breathe natural air?
maybe the going outside thing
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4) As a launching point to other planets this too seems like a falsehood. No proof of any other planets that could support life have been discovered.
We don't have to live on those planets for us to want to go to them. Could be for mining or whatever else.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:56 pm to Covingtontiger77
I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that we won't be significantly closer to colonizing Mars in the next 100 years than we are now.
The distance and logistics to construct and sustain a colony are astronomical to overcome.
The distance and logistics to construct and sustain a colony are astronomical to overcome.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 7/22/24 at 4:23 pm to Mr Breeze
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potentially habitable planets
my guess is that before we find an habitable planet we find a moon that's habitable
Posted on 7/22/24 at 4:45 pm to TigerintheNO
Be a lot easier building domes and underground facilities on the moon rather than Mars. Still near impossible though.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:01 pm to OMLandshark
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global warming
Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:43 pm to jeffsdad
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Be a lot easier building domes and underground facilities on the moon rather than Mars. Still near impossible though.
It looks to me like it is entirely doable for the moon at least for a serious research station. Our moon is a satellite with vast sums of resources already in orbit. Tunneling to avoid radiation, growing food, mining are all there in a great proving ground.
3D printing as manufacturing will be more than handy.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:44 pm to dblwall
Serving Man.
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