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re: Let's cut athletic funding for all state schools......

Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29510 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:33 pm to
You could say the same for Johnny jones.....he's basically stealing.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:35 pm to
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I'd rather cut the number of schools themselves.


This. There are parishes that might have 3 or 4 high schools. Two maybe even three of them have under 200 students each.

If a parish does have 3 schools with less than 200 students and a 4th school with, lets say, 300 students. By merging the 4 schools, at the max you have 900 students. It seems like there is more that can be offered to 900 students than 200 students.

When it comes to athletics, then there can be more outside funding. Yes, academics should come before athletics, but that doesn't diminish the importance of athletics. Of course English, math, science and history is top priority, but beyond those four subjects, an argument can be made that what athletics teaches is equal or more important. Of course not every student participates in athletics, but athletics also provides other avenues for students to participate in (it increases the interest & justification for bands, it provides a landscape for students interested in media, photography, etc).
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:39 pm to
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This. There are parishes that might have 3 or 4 high schools. Two maybe even three of them have under 200 students each.


I was talking more about higher education schools. Hell, TOPS alone makes up $250M of the budget currently and will be $300M in the next year. No penalty for not graduating or mandating some type of pay back i.e. staying in state and paying taxes for a year or two. Program stinks.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to
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You could say the same for Johnny jones.....he's basically stealing.


She doesn't make much less than Jones, but WBB revenue is much less than the men.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9509 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:43 pm to
because only LSU would have any sports teams, as the only self-sufficient athletic program in the state. Sports are an integral part of the college experience.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29510 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:46 pm to
So be it......if lsu wants to do something with private money and the state representatives don't like it....then let the institution they support suffer as well.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
Hold on, they pay a women's basketball coach more than the baseball coach? What kind of shite is that?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:55 pm to
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Ok, but did we struggle to keep our universities funded in the past?



yes. we have struggled since forever probably due in part to the fact that we live beyond our means as a state and Universities are inherently expensive. That said, don't buy into the narrative- though its been told for forever- that the university isn't funded or always gets cut. It simply isn't true. They may not get ALL the maoney they request, but they get plenty. Trouble is, if they don't get 100% funded, they claim they were cut. If they ask for $1 million and only get $90,000 they cry about being cut. They aren't exactly honest. And we won't even address their spending habits.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9509 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:02 pm to
you must have gone to Loyola
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29510 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:04 pm to
Nope LSU
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9509 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:11 pm to
OK, so you don't care if all the other schools get screwed. Just turn everything into vo-tech.

Athletics are a part of the college experience. There's lots of other gubmint waste that is less deserving of funding than college sports. Duck Dynasty's $300K per episode for one.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45430 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Baseball - $2,656,867
Women's basketball - $238,175

Paul Mainieri - baseball - $1,035,801
Nikki Caldwell - basketball - $1,043,751


that's fricked up
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15297 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:19 pm to
Ok, but Tenure goes, immediately.

If were going to pay many of these agenda ridden professors, then the schools should be able to shite can them.

Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
Nicholls
NSU
Grambling

Should all get the axe.
Could even consider making ULM and LA Tech 1 big university and letting them take Mizzou's spot in the SEC
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:39 pm to
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because only LSU would have any sports teams


There are lesser divisions the other state schools could play in and still have sports: Div. II, Div. III, NAIA. It's a matter of them reaching their natural level based on what the state can afford and the market will bear.

The movie/television (e.g., Duck Dynasty) is a good analogy in that in both cases if you take away the subsidy both would dry up.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26449 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:58 pm to
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Why should tax payers be on the hook for this? Let private tuition and donations take care of things. It looks bad if we're spending money on athletics, but can't pay professors.

Dude you are a fricking idiot.
Posted by WoodCrafter
Member since Jan 2010
1244 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:56 pm to
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Dude you are a fricking idiot.


What get's me is he is taking every side in a thread he started wanting to de-fund football...
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:58 pm to
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TJG210


It's almost amazing how you and TJGator2010 have the same name.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29510 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:06 pm to
My text there is tongue in cheek....the position I'm taking is due to the backlash against lsu for wanting to do what they want with funds that were privately donated. If lsu goes out and raises money for a nutrition center, why should they be penalized that the states economy is in the crapper? If constituents of representatives demand to know why lsu has money to that, but needs academic funds it should be a pretty easy explanation.
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