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re: Leaving Lousiana?

Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Houston area is economic opportunity. It’s not a place people really want to be.



wut? 6.2 million people live in the Houston metro area. But none of them "really want" to be there.


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he Pacific Northwest brings these incredible outdoor activities,


it rains 9 months out of the year. And is cold.

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Boston has historical sites and those weird bowling alleys where you get three rolls instead of two


bowling? bowling is the reason to move to a city?



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Nashville has country music,


its a shame you can only get country music in Nashville. Kind of like you can only get good food in La., right?


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New York has broadway and endless things to do, etc.









looks like a great place to raise a family. Lots of whoelsome activities or a great place to be young and single
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67113 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:11 pm to
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is there a state that doesn’t have this?



Very few places offer experiences even remotely resembling the Cajun Rivierra. There’s a few places around Mobile Bay/Orange Beach that sorta come close, and some spots in Florida, but it’s pretty unique. There may be some similar experiences in coastal Carolinas, but I don’t know of any. Poker runs in boats along the Petit Amite, Diversion, Tickfaw, lake Mourepas, Belle River, etc are pretty cool and not like most other places.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9147 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:13 pm to
Living in Sugarland, Katy, Tomball and the Woodlands is great way of life.

But you can't get great boudin here without shipping it in.

Better hurry, cost of housing in the Suburbs is going way up.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:14 pm to
Have you ever summered in the Hamptons or spent any amount of time in the tri-state area?

You certainly don’t have to be a fan of the city, but to say that there aren’t any activities is a bit obtuse on your part and kind of disconcerting. Even the biggest of NYC detractors wouldn’t agree with you.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:18 pm to
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looks like a great place to raise a family. Lots of whoelsome activities or a great place to be young and single


Now do the major cities of Louisiana.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3968 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:19 pm to
Dorothy said it best. There’s no place like home.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67113 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:21 pm to
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Half of this applies to NOLA too.


Of course it does, but New Orleans also offers tons of music, arts, architecture, and food found literally nowhere else on earth. New Orleans has the same drawbacks as Houston (and then some), but it also has some really big attractive qualities few other cities have. While Houston offers a competitive environment for building a business or career, it lacks anything else that many rival cities offer. Houston has similar problems to Dallas and Charlotte in that they have to make themselves uber competitive economically because they lack a lot of the other cultural advantages many other cities have that attract people.

A lot of people move to places like New York, New Orleans, Nashville, Ashville, Chicago, L.A., etc for reasons beyond jobs and cost of living. These cities bring other appeals to the table. Houston doesn’t. It feels soulless and lacking in identity because it, frankly, doesn’t have either one.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm finally leaving south Louisiana. For anyone else who left was it tough to live somewhere else? This seems like a different planet compared to other parts of US. I know a lot of people who went to Houston, and they like it. Quality of school, healthcare is better, but there is not the LA culture. Plenty of transplants, but still if I have kids they won't get to see a lot of it.


The hard part for me was finding a place to live. I didn't know what neighborhood to live in or even which suburb.

I also feel that landlords in Louisiana are held to a higher standard than what you see in the big city. In a city of several million people you've got a constant influx of people from the third world for whom running water and a mostly leak-free roof are pretty damned good. So landlords can slip a lot more and still get tenants, and places like Houston end up having a lot more crappy apartments than NOLA, even at much higher rent levels.

Doesn't affect you if you're buying, but renting is (otherwise) as pretty good move when you're just starting out somewhere.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67113 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:27 pm to
I’ve tried to leave several times, but I really really really really don’t want to live in Houston. I find my biggest hurdle is in trying to find a job out of state that isn’t in Houston. It’s like, hey, there’s a big world out there! Get out of this shithole and experience it! That’s right, there’s the inner loop, the woodlands, sugarland, katy, beaumont, AND Galveston! How could you not want to leave Louisiana for THAT!?

So, until I find something somewhere I actually would like to live, I’m going to stay in BR and try my best to make the city just a little less crappy.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:30 pm to
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but New Orleans also offers tons of music, arts, architecture, and food found literally nowhere else on earth.


I love New Orleans but we don't have to be overly hyperbolic about it.

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While Houston offers a competitive environment for building a business or career, it lacks anything else that many rival cities offer. Houston has similar problems to Dallas and Charlotte in that they have to make themselves uber competitive economically because they lack a lot of the other cultural advantages many other cities have that attract people.


Let me clarify, I'm not saying Houston is as flashy as a trip destination as New Orleans. I'm saying it's a great place to live with plenty of things for locals to do. I always said that about Dallas when I was there. Great place to live, work, raise a family, etc, but not somewhere you plan a vacation around.

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A lot of people move to places like New York, New Orleans, Nashville, Ashville, Chicago, L.A., etc for reasons beyond jobs and cost of living. These cities bring other appeals to the table.


And most leave when they decide to start a family unless they have very high paying jobs.

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Houston doesn’t. It feels soulless and lacking in identity because it, frankly, doesn’t have either one.


I won't even begin to disagree with this. The best big cities in Texas in terms of culture or identity would be Fort Worth, Austin, and even San Antonio.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50347 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Houston is just a giant version of Baton Rouge with more jobs and better suburbs.



Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Now do the major cities of Louisiana.



well, theres only 1 and its a third-world shithole for the most part. Tons of character, but a third world shite hole.

I'm not defending any city, nor criticizing any city. They all offer pros/cons. They all have good and bad aspects. But moving to or away from one is a personal choice and can really only be made by the individual as its based on that individuals needs and wants.

So all the dick shaking here is kind of pointless.

Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2378 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:34 pm to
Truth BBQ in the Heights (Houston) makes a killer brisket boudin.

The corn pudding, brisket Mac n cheese and baked beans were incredible too.

The banana pudding is also v good. The grub in Houston is not a problem at all. Super diverse too.

HEB alone is a reason to leave Louisiana. The Bunker Hill location is my spot and the seafood and meat counters are exceptional.

Moved to the memorial area of Houston 20 years ago from Old Metairie. Night and day difference. Never moving back tbh.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:36 pm to
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nor criticizing any city.


Then why did you post those pics of NYC acting like it's all over the city and no where in Louisiana has the same?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:38 pm to
What has that got to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:39 pm to
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The grub in Houston is not a problem at all. Super diverse too.


Houston's food scene is legit af.

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HEB alone is a reason to leave Louisiana.


It's gotta be a good HEB though. The good ones are awesome, especially the brand new ones from the last few years. We have a ghetto one here though that was scheduled for a tear down and rebuild, but is postponed indefinitely for COVID. I'll go to the next closest one because it's newer and nicer.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67113 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:39 pm to
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with plenty of things for locals to do


The drawback is that those things that Houston has for locals to do are had by literally every other city of remotely similar size. They’re not unique to Houston, and people don’t have to come to Houston, and only Houston, to experience them.

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found literally nowhere else on earth.


I love New Orleans but we don't have to be overly hyperbolic about it.


There’s a lot of dishes there that are not duplicated in restaurants in other places. New Orleans architecture is largely one-of-a-kind. There’s no other city that looks like it. New Orleans jazz is duplicated in some other places (largely by Louisiana ex-pats), but the frequency and variety is pretty much only found in the city. Thus, people go to New Orleans to experience these things because they cannot have a similar experience anywhere else.

That is the point I am making. There is no alternative draw to Houston beyond economics, and the government of that city needs to reverse their current trajectory or they’re going to kill the one thing they have going for them. Houston currently offers a very favorable quality of life for pay vs cost of living. It has no other experience to offer its citizens which cannot be had in dozens of other cities of remotely similar size. If it loses its economic edge, it loses nearly its entire reason for existence.
Posted by CouillonJean
Member since Mar 2020
41 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:43 pm to
what clear lake/league city down by da water like?
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Now thanks to China & Derek Chauvin, Dallas is a SJW dumpster fire. Unfortunately New Orleans isn’t any better right now.


Honestly, it seems like New Orleans has been pretty stable and calm throughout this weird time of social and racial unrest.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:44 pm to
Partying on boats and sandbars isn’t unique to any one place

And you can do it in much cleaner water in other parts of the country
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