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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:37 am to
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:37 am to
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Marco has intensified significantly though. I wonder how much effect the wind shear conditions will have on it if Marco continues to strengthen.


Maro is very small and the upper level trough over the Gulf is stout. So this isn't a case were latent heat released by the storm can fracture a PVS, since Marco won't produce enough. The one wild card for Marco is if the UL trough retrogrades faster than modeled and that keeps Marco in the favorable orientation that it is in this morning.
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RIP Wayde
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Posted by DVinBR
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:38 am to
puerto rico radar

Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:38 am to
That chick looks like she’d get pregnant just by looking at a cock
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:39 am to
Looks like the 12z GFS initialized with Marco at 1009mb, when in reality it's at 992 per HH... does that make this run pretty much useless?
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:45 am to
Considering the trough unknowns, any way Marco could land as a Hurricane?
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:45 am to


Truth.
Posted by lsufan4lifeMiles
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:45 am to
Aircraft Position: 20.78°N 85.55°W
Bearing: 45° at 164 kt
Altitude: 1561 gpm
Peak 10-second Wind: 15 kt at 295°
Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure: 1008.3 mb



This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:48 am
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:49 am to
Gulf Stacked LA fricked
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:49 am to
Want to decipher?
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:49 am to
Meteorologist Nick Mikulas

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Our baffling two Gulf storm scenario continues to unfold and get crazier by the hour. The potential remains for these two systems to interact with one another, or even weirder, be just far enough apart to bring issues from two systems to parts of the area. Track guidance is still quite “interesting” on both, and specific wind and rain impacts are still impossible. But we are about 3 days from the first potential hit, so it is time to trim any suspect limbs, gas up the generator, and make sure any hatches you may have, are battened down. That’s not a definite, this thing is coming here, but a gentle nudge that it might be.

Tropical Storm Marco…

LOCATION...20.9N 85.3W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM ENE OF COZUMEL MEXICO
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM SSW OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...65 MPH...100 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 340 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...992 MB...29.30 INCHES

Marco is small, but potent. An eyewall is starting to form, and it appears we could have a hurricane by this afternoon. Marco continues to hang out on the east side of the model track guidance, and as it deepens, should continue to feel deeper steering currents, which, at this point means more north, or northwest motion, as opposed to west northwest. The official forecast makes Marco a category 1 hurricane, that should weaken on approach as wind shear increases. Small storms like Marco tend to have quick fluctuations in strength, as we are seeing this morning. As Marco continues to the northwest, it will encounter increasing shear, but that overall shear pattern will be weakening with time. Basically, it may be moving into an area that had 40 knots of shear yesterday, but has 30 today, and will have 20 tomorrow. I know I’m getting a little too technical there. I’m basically saying the shear will be significant enough to have impacts, but should be in a weakening phase. So if Marco overachieves, and is a stronger hurricane, it will be able to endure this shear a bit better. The new forecast track has areas along I-10 in the cone of uncertainty, which is a slight shift northward. High pressure will be building in across the northeastern Gulf, that “should” shove Marco a bit more to the west on approach to the coast. This high will also be what steers Laura our way. So the same general steering currents will be at play, but the storms will be about 36 hours apart. I’m so sorry I can’t describe this in a simpler way. Every aspect of forecasting is continually changing. That’s the nature of any forecast. In this case, these changes could allow the incredibly unique situation of two landfalling tropical systems, in a two day window, in a small geographic area. Another wrench is that Marco is already much stronger than any model is forecasting, which will have an impact in track guidance down the road.

Tropical storm Laura…

LOCATION...17.8N 66.8W
ABOUT 20 MI...30 KM SW OF PONCE PUERTO RICO
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM ESE OF SANTO DOMINGO DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES

Laura looks decent on satellite, but closer investigation shows it is still pretty disorganized. I think Laura stays disorganized, as there will be lots of land interaction in the next couple days. Beyond the next couple days, Laura comes out into the Gulf of Mexico with some solid conditions for strengthening. Warm water, light shear, and all that stuff. The general idea is that Laura will be somewhere near the western tip of Cuba by late monday. A building ridge of high pressure will continue to shove Laura to the northwest. As Laura (in theory) strengthens over the Gulf of Mexico, it will start to round the edge of the ridge of high pressure, and move in our general direction. NHC has this landfalling near Vermillion Bay as a category 1 hurricane. Again, don’t focus on the exact path, and honestly, don’t focus on that strength forecast. This could really ramp up quickly if it enters the gulf with the circulation intact. On the other hand, it could be a disheveled mess with all the land it will have to deal with.

This leaves us with the potential of two tropical systems within striking distance in a two day stretch. It looks like Marco could bring local issues by Monday night into Tuesday, and Laura Wednesday night into Thursday. I can’t give specifics yet, but it’s time to prepare as a precautionary measure. I know I always say that I want to see another set of models and all that stuff, but I really think the next 24 hours is key. I think I’ll have a good handle on things by tomorrow, mainly because we will see how models react to a much stronger than forecast Marco. That should give at least some clarity, and hopefully allow me to start nailing down rain and wind impacts if it looks like Marco will be close enough. I’ll update things this evening, or post a quick hit if/when Marco becomes a hurricane.


Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:55 am to
Newest GFS is going to rock LA on both ends
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51746 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:56 am to
12z GFS is about to give us a big eastward shift for Marco
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51746 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:57 am to
Ignore, messed up post.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:57 am to
Marco... 51 kts (58.7 mph) at the surface in the NW eyewall according to 3 different dropsondes
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:58 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51746 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:59 am to
12z GFS for Marco.



12z GFS for Laura.



This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by lsufan4lifeMiles
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
746 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:59 am to
Will you share the next GFS
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:59 am to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147182 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:00 am to
Hurricane Hunters are finding 67 kts (77 mph) at flight level

just gotta get that down to the surface and it'll be a hurricane
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50809 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:00 am to
Whelp, I can put the coffee down now. This GFS is eye-opening.
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