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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Hurricane Hunters repotted the center of TD14 a little further south than originally believed



No VDM



Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:22 pm to
Tropical Wave 14 FTW
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

This might be a dumb question, but do Honduras and Nicaragua give a shite about the US National Weather Service issuing a weather warning?

I'd imagine they piggy back off of our resources - I would if I was them.


NHC doesn't issue warnings/watches for them... but they report if the country issues a warning/watch.

From the 4 pm advisory:

quote:

The government of Honduras has upgraded the Tropical Storm Watch
to a Tropical Storm Warning from the Honduras/Nicaragua border
westward to Punta Castilla and for the Bay Islands.

The government of Nicaragua has issued a Tropical Storm Warning for
the coast of Nicaragua from Puerto Cabezas northward.


I'd imagine most countries appreciate the work being done by the NHC.

Ironically, one of the best non-NHC national agencies is actually Cuba.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147862 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:05 pm to
Hurricane Hunters are finished with TD14
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21626 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:10 pm to
18z GFS and ICON seem reasonable at this point - two weak systems in the Gulf. Now to see if the HWRF & HMON back off of bombing out TD13.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

I understand uncertainty as a fellow meteorology graduate but these guys aren’t any better than Neil Frank and Bob Sheets were 30 years ago.

And let’s not forget Nash Roberts when he would mark High and Low Pressure Systems,
Fronts and Wind Direction with his felt tip pen.
Satellites?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Now to see if the HWRF & HMON back off of bombing out TD13.


00z should be interesting on that since that should have the HH data ingested.

The bombing out on Florida approach makes sense, if it's a reasonably organized TS by the time it hits the eastern Bahamas and Turks and Caicos. Got a lot of shear to fight with to get there.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75776 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Seems like forecasts should have gotten better than they have. I respect the fact NHC is having two cyclones to deal with at the same time but damn they missed the center of TD14 by over 70 nm this morning?

Have you seen what these two storms look like? Hell, as of last night TD-13 had two distinct features vying to become the dominant center. Most models missed the location of the center on TD-14, likely because there was no center to begin with. The fact they get that close with the messy systems and variables at play is actually pretty good.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16023 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:29 pm to
No longer reside in South Louisiana. Was a child/youth during Betsy and Camille. Don't recall two storms/canes in the GOM simultaneously.

How often does this occur?

Apologies if already asked/answered
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

How often does this occur?


Once in 1933. Other than that, I got nothing.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43310 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:35 pm to
I know Steve Caparotta on the 5pm news says he doesn't think the center location at 4 won't last. Said he thinks the i'll call it eye like feature. NO IT ISN't AN EYE looks like it where looks to get going eventually.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Once in 1933. Other than that, I got nothing.



1959.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16023 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:41 pm to
Duke, Geaux

Merci
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147862 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:59 pm to
TD13

quote:

Peak 10-second Wind: 35 kt at 142°


35 kts = 40 mph... a tropical storm if that's at the surface

ETA: updated number

quote:

Peak 10-second Wind: 39 kt at 125°


39 kts = 44.8 mph (let's just round up and call it 45 mph)

ETA2: updated again... all right now being found on the north side of the storm

quote:

Peak 10-second Wind: 43 kt at 117°


43 kts = 49.5mph (round up and call it 50 mph?)
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

No longer reside in South Louisiana. Was a child/youth during Betsy and Camille. Don't recall two storms/canes in the GOM simultaneously. How often does this occur?

Saw on TWC this morning.
Think they said 1933
One in Texas the other in Florida
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66961 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:24 pm to
I take it no one is surprised that 2020 is offering up the rare Gulf double whammy.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5922 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:35 pm to
2020: Fujiwhara effect inbound... Two cat1 morph into a cat11 coronacane!!!!!
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147862 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:39 pm to
30 kt winds found at the surface in the NE portion of the storm

30 kt = 34.5 mph
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147862 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:45 pm to
HH finding 43 kt (49.5 mph) winds at flight level again... this time as the plane's heading towards the center from the NW of TD 13
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184186 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:48 pm to
Only 2020 would give us two tropical storms in the gulf at the same time.


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