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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:25 pm to
@War_Mapper
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Comparison of the approximate change of the situation in Ukraine over the last week.
1900 UTC Saturday 05/03 --> 1900 UTC Saturday 12/03. LINK


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:30 pm to
@COUPSURE
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Sentinel Hub's moisture index shows that north of the Kyiv, in an area where clashes are taking place, a large area is now flooded. I suspect that Ukraine flooded the area to slow down Russian advances in the area.

50.725252, 30.353823

5/ LINK


Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:39 pm to
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It seems fairly innocuous on its face until you realize that the government is actively working with social media platforms to remove what they deem as misinformation. Jen Psaki said that the administration was flagging posts for Facebook regarding covid info they didn't like. I just don't see how there's really much difference between shutting down social media and having the government promote one narrative while banning alternative information. The latter seems far more insidious given that the disseminated information is perceived to be truth

That this statement has received 8 downvotes is absolutely terrifying.
How can people be so hypnotized by government?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77577 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:41 pm to
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How can people be so hypnotized by government?
The same way people were supporting the complete, blanket shutdown of the ability of regular Russian citizens to access their finances.

They believe it can never happen to them, therefore, they fully support its implementation against those they deem an “enemy”.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24070 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:03 pm to
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That this statement has received 8 downvotes is absolutely terrifying. How can people be so hypnotized by government?

They will believe and do whatever the government and media tells them even if it is completely contradictory to previous guidance.

Yuri Bezemenov who was former KGB described the mindset of people who are programmed by media inputs as “demoralized”.

He was quoted as saying “As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.”

Former KGB Agent Speaks on Demoralization
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38422 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:27 pm to
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I think we need like 4 more to join in and begin with "They believe" or "They only know" like 15 more times to REALLY drive the point home
I'm glad I'm not the only one that gets annoyed by this.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:35 pm to
The Russian propaganda campaign against LSU athletics via its proxy NCAA is in full gear. It cannot be allowed to continue. Better shut down the NCAA's means of communication and freeze their finances. This is war.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:44 pm to


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:49 pm to
There are reports that Wade and Coach O have readied the shrimp boat and have sailed to international waters. They believe they cannot be touched there. They are currently forming their next move and will be in touch via the appropriate channels.

ETA: It is rumored that they now wish to be known as the King and Queen of Destin.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:11 pm to
Crazy you ask this, as we have the same shite here. As a an old trial lawyer, I could only ever win if I have a jury that is persuadable, open minds would be great but you don’t get that anymore. Used to be easy, but we discovered in the 90s that we had significant portion of jury that had been programmed by media efforts etc by Chamber of Commerce funded by asbestos industry, coal, tobacco, pharmaceuticals etc that all lawsuits were bad, we were the antichrist and our clients were shite, no matter the case. Little kids run over by drunk drivers same as car wreck whiplash. This was now a core belief, almost impossible to change no matter what, certainly not in a few day trial. So best I can do is keep them off the jury.

This is same shite, no matter what you show them tell them, it will not matter . Putin could come out admit her is antichrist and doing to destroy the world 100 times they will not belief it.
Qnon is kinda same thing, they will reject anything that doesn’t support their world view. We used to call it brain washing but it’s different than that.

Basically 90% of the people over 50 in Russia aren’t Persuidable or reachable no matter what. You even have situations where their children are calling from the Battlefield or witnessing these entrocities and events and they do not believe them. No matter what they see, here, Witness, They will not believe
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:14 pm to
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The Russian propaganda campaign against LSU athletics via its proxy NCAA is in full gear. It cannot be allowed to continue. Better shut down the NCAA's means of communication and freeze their finances. This is war.


This but unironically.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24070 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:29 pm to
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This is same shite, no matter what you show them tell them, it will not matter

Don’t want to misinterpret your statement, but I hope your takeaway here isn’t that only the Russians have been demoralized.

Covid
BLM
And now Ukraine

The US has demoralized a large segment of its domestic population using media and educational programming using the exact same tactics.

Lookup project mockingbird and you can read the notes of the intelligence agencies who did it. It’s just more noticeable now because Obama eliminated regulations against the CIA operating domestically with regard to media involvement.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:29 pm to
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we had significant portion of jury that had been programmed by media efforts etc by Chamber of Commerce funded by asbestos industry, coal, tobacco, pharmaceuticals etc that all lawsuits were bad


And you have a significant portion of the population that has been programmed equally by the trial lawyers through the Democratic Party and media that industry, and business is bad. It goes both ways.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:32 pm to
Reread his post again.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30717 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:36 pm to
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Yes cause the OT is filled with intelligent posters like yourself


quote:

SDVTiger



This coming from a poster that almost never adds anything to any discussion outside of ad hominem. You are like the scrawny kid that sits on the end of the bench never getting in the game but talks shite to the other team when you think someone on your scores a point.

You are a cheap seat commentator and one of the last people here that should question other people's intelligence.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30717 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:40 pm to


Lesser may also be accurate in his quote as well.

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Great. You should head back to the Poliboard. You'll find less "morons" there.



I have made the fewer vs less point on tOT before and actually got pushback. Some people still think it is correct to use it with things that can be numerically counted.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46533 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Don’t want to misinterpret your statement, but I hope your takeaway here isn’t that only the Russians have been demoralized.

Covid
BLM
And now Ukraine


How does Ukraine fit in with the other two? I mean do you not think it's wrong that Russia invaded Ukraine?
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