re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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PUTIN IS KGB, CASE CLOSED

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Truth hurts doesn't it? You fit into the neocon John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Bill Kristol, John McCain, Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney wing of the Troskyite camp.

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is there a podcast where you are getting these buzzwords and ideas? I feel like i need to understand this line of thinking.

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I'd also like to know what is responsible for his "evolution". Here is one of his early posts in this thread in it's entirety.

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Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:51 pm to TutHillTiger
What really disturbs me is so many have adopted or believe that Ukraine is full of Nazis. They believe Putin's lies that he has so!d to the Russian people. They have no clue as to the reality or facts of the Maidan Revolution of 2014. They believe that the Ukrainian people had nothing or little to do with getting rid if Putin's stooge Yanukovych. They believe that the CIA was 100% responsible for it. The US did support it but they were not the deciding factor. The Ukrainian people were. They have no clue that Ukraine had been shifting hard to the west even before 2014. They absolutely reject the facts of what that thug Yanukovych was and what he did in regards to lying about signing the trade agreement with the west and then turning around and signing a huge agreement with Putin instead. He then was granted dictatorial powers and brought in Russians from Crimea and used them as police state thugs and snipers who killed many people in the streets. He stole billions from Ukraine. They reject the facts about what Putin did in Crimea and even worse in the Donbass. He came close to losing his power when he lost Ukraine. He had to take Crimea to save himself. Losing Crimea and that naval base would have been the worst strategic disaster for Russia in 100 years. He only invaded the Donbass after Ukraine's new government signed the trade agreement with the west. He granted hundreds of thousands of Russian passports to Donbass citizens and then prevented them from leaving the occupied territory. It was either accept the passports and go to Russia for food or starve. He then could claim that he was protecting "Russian citizens". He used his little green men to invade and called them separatists. He used his Wagner group thugs that was founded by a Neo-Nazi.
Putin has to destabilize Ukraine to prevent it from eventually joining the EU. Putin cannot afford to have a properous, democratic Ukraine on his border.
I will give you an example of how dishonest Putin is and how he cannot be trusted. The Minsk Agreement called for Ukraine to negotiate with the two Donbass regions. Each side would send delegates to the negotiations. Ukraine balked after discovering that the selected delegates from the Donbass weren't even from there. They were from Russia and were actually real Russians citizens pretending that they were from the Donbass region!
You can't trust Putin!!!

I will believe it when I see it, but this sounds promising.

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Even Rybar says its more

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JB, what are your sources telling you to say today about the airfield attacks? Are you still going with just four planes damaged?

NAFO Trolls:...We took 41 planes out Bro...The Russians lost their Nuclear Deterrence! Trust us Bro!"


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Don't link the multiple videos and open source satellite imagery of the Tu-22s and (2) A-50s burning. It's more fun to go along with the guys who insist it was 3 or 4 obsolete TU 95s.

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You've literally been wrong about something every day this week, you just don't acknowledge it

The real arbiter of ensuring accuracy over here.

I still.stand by everything in that post that Bagdad Bob of Kiev posted. The fact/reality is this was never about Ukraine winning. This is about killing Russians. I am not a Putin supporter. I know what he is. It is a proxy war that Ukraine cannot win now. Ukraine has been used. The fact is Putin and Russia exist and Ukraine's geographic position sucks. I get it, Putin is a sob. I wish the situation was different but it isn't. Europe has made its bed and created the situation that they now face. The reality is nothing the west or Ukraine can do to reverse the situation on the ground or the balance of power.
I heard a European politician say recently that this war needs to last 5 more years in order to give them time to ready themselves. What about Ukrainians dying? I thought that this was about freedom and Democracy? Why didnt the west encourage Ukraine to go to the negotiation table when they achieved their greatest success and they were at their strength during the Kharkiv and Kherson success? Every time the west turns down an off ramp it continues to get worse for Ukraine. The settlement might be harsh but the alternative is worse.
Look.at the balance of power now. Do you honestly believe the situation can be reversed? This has now evolved into another mindless war where American taxpayer money is being thrown down a black hole. This is now a grift for politicians that Europe and the likes.of Lindsey Graham want to continue. As long as Russia is the boogie man we are tied to the status quo in Europe and they know that. How many of these politicians are influenced by institutions that want forever war? How many of them get money from these types of institutions?
Why do we always have to fight Europe's wars when they spend their money on socialist welfare and fail to protect themselves? If we fight China how many of them will come to help? I think that they will choose to sit it out.

Did you argue that we should have stayed in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan? These politicians continue to waste our treasure on wars that we don't win. If a war must be fought we should exert all effort to win and then LEAVE. Did we do that in Ukraine? We have seen 50-60 years of this failed foreign policy now. This policy continues to waste our treasure and weakens the nation. Yet many continue to lap the propaganda up that we have to continue these policies. It is easy to take the position of the John Boltons or Lindsey Grahams when you have no skin in the game. It is not your sons dying or your country being destroyed in an war that cannot be won. There comes a time when the reality on the ground must be acknowledged and accepted.

Where are you educating yourself? CNN, ISW,BBC, Times Radio, DW or France24?