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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11315 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Ironically, Putin isn't some nationalist juggernaut leftists want to paint him and he allows massive amount of migration into Russia too from the ME republics. So all of it is very nuances and no, Putin isn't your model savior of the nation, but he's working with and inverted demographic pyramid.


Russia is Putin. Your argument that the US should be more like Russia is literally an argument that US leadership should behave like Putin. Your argument is literally the US should follow Russia while also saying Putin isnt great.

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Their lack of PC and rejecting trans/LGBT direction, that's the only big one I can think of


So the US giving slightly outsized importance to 2% of the population which has no effect on the day to day life of Americans is your argument? Got it.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13222 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:14 pm to
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"they can use women" isn't the flex you think it is

I mean...they are out of men.

It was kind of my point.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:18 pm to
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So the US giving slightly outsized importance to 2% of the population which has no effect on the day to day life of Americans is your argument? Got it.


This is where you're completely wrong. This issue and degeneration of our culture and norms has massive psychological and demographic long term effects. Basically, leftists tried to normalize mental illness and tell everyone to shut it who spoke out against it. You can even call it a slow-acting genocide. Elon Musk's son who became a tranhy is probably not going to have kids, in fact it killed Elon's relationship with his son and he feels like he lost his son, he's no longer who he was. You can literally affect demographics with that ideology.

It's 2% one decade, it can become 15% the next.

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Russia is Putin. Your argument that the US should be more like Russia is literally an argument that US leadership should behave like Putin. Your argument is literally the US should follow Russia while also saying Putin isnt great.


False, not what I said. I literally singled out one critical issue of refusing cultural degradation by Putin that we should adopt. Although in the wake of court rulings and SCOTUS blocking deporting of illegals, one can argue that current US judiciary is preventing our country from enforcing the laws and securing our people. Maybe Trump needs to be like Putin when courts overstep their boundaries with these obviously partisan district Obama/Biden appointed federal judges get out of their lane.

Nobody seriously thinks Ketanji Brown or the other three sows on there including Coney Barrett who Mitch helped install, are fair and balanced justices. They are all activists who need to be removed.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 6:25 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:37 pm to
I wasn't replying to your comment lol
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 6:38 pm
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11315 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:55 pm to
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False, not what I said. I literally singled out one critical issue of refusing cultural degradation by Putin that we should adopt



Your statement was:

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Russian conservative/traditional values ideology that the West actually needs to get back to if they plan to survive.



And then you argue Elon Musk? Who has God knows how many kids with how many women? He's the exact opposite of traditional family values.

And the 2% now v. 15% later really comes down to your belief that trans people are a product of their environment (nurture) rather than a product of nature.

Either way, that's what, 1 issue where you think we should be more like Russia? While you agree the US is correct on the right to bear arms, right to assembly, freedom of speech, etc when compared to Russia?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:02 pm to
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maybe he will get a raise.


or get to kiss Putin's "icon"
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:29 pm to
ISW Update May 18 2025

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Key Takeaways:

Russian forces conducted the largest single drone strike of the war against Ukraine on the night of May 17 to 18 — in disregard of US President Donald Trump's calls for Russia to stop long-range strikes against Ukraine, particularly against Kyiv Oblast.

The Kremlin continues efforts to project Russia's military strength ahead of US President Donald Trump’s scheduled phone call with Putin on May 19.

Reported support within the Russian military and society for continuing the war until Russia achieves its original war aims and territorial demands reflects the success of the Kremlin's years-long narrative efforts to justify a protracted war effort.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky continues efforts to negotiate a diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine.

Russian forces recently advanced near Borova and Toretsk.





1 year ago
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Key Takeaways:

Russian forces have recently intensified their effort to seize the operationally significant town of Chasiv Yar, seeking to exploit how Russian offensive operations in northern Kharkiv Oblast and ongoing offensive operations throughout eastern Ukraine have generated greater theater-wide pressure on Ukrainian forces.

Russian forces are likely preparing for the second phase of their offensive operation in northern Kharkiv Oblast, which Russian forces likely intend to launch following their anticipated seizure of Vovchansk.

Zelensky also outlined materiel requirements for Ukraine to combat Russia's air superiority and defend against the Russian air threat, especially given US-imposed restraints on Ukraine that prohibit Ukraine from striking targets within Russian territory and airspace.

Ukrainian officials have reportedly asked the US presidential administration to ease the restriction against using US-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia.

Zelensky noted that Ukraine must overcome its manpower challenges in order to contest the theater-wide initiative in Ukraine.

Ukraine's new mobilization law went into effect on May 18 and will help Ukraine stabilize its force generation apparatus amid ongoing manpower constraints.

Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev called for Russia's envisioned "buffer zone" to encompass all of Ukraine, illustrating that the Kremlin’s concept of the buffer zone is a thinly veiled justification for Russia's long-held intent to subsume the entirety of Ukraine and likely an effort to garner domestic support for the Russian war effort.

Founder of the Kremlin-linked Rybar Telegram channel, Mikhail Zvinchuk, gave an uncharacteristically public interview in which he criticized the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and speculated on possible changes in the MoD.

Should the Kremlin allow select prominent Russian milbloggers to increase their criticisms of the Russian MoD, public pressure may grow in favor of reforms that would, if implemented, assist Russia's war effort in Ukraine.

Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili vetoed the Russian-style "foreign agents" bill on May 18, but the ruling Georgian Dream party will likely override Zurabishvili's veto in the coming weeks.

Russian forces recently marginally advanced near Avdiivka, Hulyaipole, and Robotyne.

The BBC News Russian Service reported on May 18 that Russian military authorities in Astana, Kazakhstan, detained a Russian contract service personnel (kontraktnik) for desertion on April 23 – the first such instance in Kazakhstan.





2 years ago
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Key Takeaways

Ukrainian forces have seized the tactical initiative and made tactically significant gains around Bakhmut in counter-attack operations on May 18.

Ukrainian officials indicated that Ukrainian forces have seized the battlefield initiative in the Bakhmut area.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted on May 18 that Wagner mercenaries are unable to encircle the Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut due to the loss of stable flanks north and south of Bakhmut.

Prigozhin and Wagner-affiliated milbloggers are blaming Russian conventional forces for military failures in and around Bakhmut.

Prigozhin’s efforts to blame the Russian military for failures around Bakhmut are causing some ultranationalists to accuse him of using the Battle for Bakhmut to satisfy his personal ambitions.

Russian forces conducted another large-scale missile strike across Ukraine on the night of May 17 to 18, targeting Kyiv for the ninth time since the beginning of May.

The Kremlin continues to strengthen domestic repression measures likely to encourage self-censorship and prepare Russian society for a prolonged war.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stated that NATO may discuss the possible provision of Western fighter jets to Ukraine at the June Defense Ministers meeting.

Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks northeast of Kupyansk and along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.

Unknown actors, possibly Ukrainian partisans, attacked a Russian rail line in Crimea.

The Russian Supreme Court ruled on May 18 that Russian military personnel who voluntarily surrender on the battlefield will be prosecuted under treason charges.

Russian occupation authorities continue to announce patronage programs with Russian federal subjects to support infrastructure projects in occupied territories.





3 years ago
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Key Takeaways

Russian forces are continuing to inflict air and artillery strikes on the Azovstal Steel Plant, indicating that a remnant of Ukrainian defense is still in the plant despite evacuations over the last few days.

Russian occupying authorities are reportedly planning to level the Azovstal Steel Plant after completing its capture, which directly undermines the large strategic economic importance of capturing the plant.

Russian forces continued to prepare for an assault on Severodonetsk and intensified operations around Lyman.

Russian forces continued to prioritize holding positions around the Russian border to prevent further Ukrainian advances north of Kharkiv City and will likely continue to do so at the expense of deploying additional reinforcements to other axes of advance.

Russian troops focused on maintaining their positions on the Southern Axis and on conducting rocket, missile, and artillery strikes along the frontline.



Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:35 pm to
Lol someone is about to claim that Russia is gaining 20 sq km a day.

It's really crazy that such an ascendant power as Russia can't impose achieve its objectives in Ukraine...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:03 pm to
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wasn't even close ...


But they haven’t counted the Russian vote yet.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:13 pm to
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It's really crazy that such an ascendant power as Russia can't impose achieve its objectives in Ukraine...


They post maps and brag about taking part of a village! You try and research some of these places and you can’t find them because they are so small.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:44 pm to
Going from one chicken coop to the other in rapid succession. The fact is that ever since Bakhmut fell, an inch worm would have progressed further than Russia has
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:43 am to
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Lol someone is about to claim that Russia is gaining 20 sq km a day.

It's really crazy that such an ascendant power as Russia can't impose achieve its objectives in Ukraine...


That's 300sq. km in a matter of two weeks, Ukraine won't be getting back. I say let the fighting continue.

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Russian Gains for the week of the 12th-18th were 201 sq km

Russian gains today 35 sq km

Russian gains for the week of the 4th-11th were 106 sq km

Russian gains today 60 sq km



Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:49 am to
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Going from one chicken coop to the other in rapid succession. The fact is that ever since Bakhmut fell, an inch worm would have progressed further than Russia has


Weird cope. Ukriane can't seem to get itself a chicken coup last two years. Russia gained 300sq. km in the last two week. Ukraine's Kursk offensive was 900 sq. km, which they couldn't even hold.

It's only gonna get worse, and you probably know it.

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or get to kiss Putin's "icon"


Weird thing to say. You might enjoy kissing Zelensky's hairly little tush, but I have no fondness for any politician except strong support for Trump, JD, Ron Paul, Tulsi and MTG.

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They post maps and brag about taking part of a village! You try and research some of these places and you can’t find them because they are so small.


@Double You pride yourself on being historically and geographically illiterate, then complain that you can't find places in Ukraine.

What you need to realize Russia's objective isn't just to gain ground but to kill as much Ukrainian army as possible, while also not get blown up in the mined terrain. Ukraine is gaining pretty much nothing for two years, and the Kursk gain on 900 sq. km they made, they lost in 8 months.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:08 am
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:59 am to
"turned into a concentration camp."No fcking shite.

This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:11 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:16 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:32 am to
Russia's base at Tartus, Syria given to UAE by Syria. UAE's DP Ports World will invest $800 million to develop it as a trading center.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 6:34 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13222 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:34 am to
I know...you replied to his reply of my comment.

I was just agreeing with you.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:37 am to
I'm not sure how I read what you said the first time but thank you
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