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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:45 pm to
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The value of the US manufacturing output in 2024 was about $2.5 trillion.

Russia was about $250 billion. Ans that's two years into a war time manufacturing economy.

So our manufacturing base is at least 10x that of Russia's.


I don’t want to be cruel, but you understand it’s about output figures?

It’s not about value, it’s about physical size, the number of assembly lines and the people they employ, and their mechanical ability to produce equipment in large quantities

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Which one of us can keep this up the longest?


Russia, it’s a vital national interest for them so they’re willing to to go all in. We are not, because Ukraine is ultimately unimportant to us, and when the costs become too high, we’ll walk away.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:48 pm to
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It’s not about value, it’s about physical size


I have read some stunningly idiotic things on this board. I mean, things that just take your breath away.

But this needs to be framed and hung in the Smithsonian of Stupid shite.

There's absolutely no way you're real.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:49 pm to
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Russia out produces all of NATO


According to NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte that is correct....We already discussed this in this thread. You NAFO trolls love to deny reality and lie.

Mark Rutte: "Russia’s economy is no bigger than the economies of the Netherlands and Belgium combined. But they produce in three months what all of NATO produces in a year. They don’t have our high salaries, they don’t have our bureaucracy, they can move at a higher speed, and they have created a military economy."



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Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:53 pm to
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I have read some stunningly idiotic things on this board. I mean, things that just take your breath away.



Country A can refurbish 200 tanks a year at a cost of 12 million each

Country B, can produce 480 brand new tanks at a cost of 5 million each


These are invented numbers, but do you see the point?
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:54 pm to
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they produce in three months what all of NATO produces in a year


What? Vodka? Potatoes? Pollution?

Russia has an economy the size of New Jersey's.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:58 pm to
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These are invented numbers, but do you see the point?


Do those tanks need computer chips?

If yes, then how many computer chips does Russia produce?

If zero, then Game Over!

You get my point?

How many SKUs does it take to win a war? About 10 million. (Made up number but a fair guess).

In how many of those SKUs does Russia out produces NATO? Five? 10? 20?

It takes more than diesel fuel, artillery shells, and waves of North Koreans to win a war.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:03 pm to
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What? Vodka? Potatoes? Pollution?

Russia has an economy the size of New Jersey's.


Are you a fricking idiot? That is information coming directly from Mark Rutte NATO General Secretary. He would know more than you on the subject. According to the IMF... Russia is also the number 4 ranked economy in the World in terms of PPP which is more accurate than GDP.


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Posted by texag7
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Russia has an economy the size of New Jersey's.


What a dumb arse.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:17 pm to
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What a dumb arse.


His New Jersey comment is one of the dumbest things I read in this thread This dumbass thinks Russia could fight a War for 3 years against NATO funding and equipment and Ukrainian meat with the economy the size of New Jersey


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Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:27 pm to
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You clearly are incapable of thinking NAFO Troll. You actually believed the Ghost of Kyiv story


He's so naive, mate
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:38 pm to
So why can’t mighty Russia take care of business and beat Ukraine?
You say:
They have more men
They have superior armament production
They gave ten times more artillery shells
They have superior
Putin runs Russia and a clown runs Ukraine

What is the problem?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:45 pm to
Mate, want to see something really funny?


Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:03 pm to
Neither as USSR or Russia could it ever successfully make a computer chip.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:11 pm to
If we are being honest this is the best outcome. Even if Trump is able to actually end the War, the Deepstate will be at it again sending billions of our Dollars to Ukraine to fight Russia if they get in Power again. Unfortunately the Reality is, this Ukraine grift will not end until they are completely destroyed. I don't want that to happen but I also don't want billions of dollars going to Ukraine anymore. The only way to ensure that does not happen again if the Deepstate gets in control is for Ukraine to be completely destroyed


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 12:36 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:23 am to
Reuters

Exclusive: US will push European allies to buy more arms for Ukraine, say sources

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Feb 10 (Reuters) - The Trump administration plans to push European allies to buy more American weapons for Ukraine ahead of potential peace talks with Moscow, said two people with knowledge of the matter, a move that could improve Kyiv's negotiating position.

The plan, if formalized, will offer some reassurance to Ukrainian leaders who have worried that President Donald Trump might block further aid to the country, whose military has been slowly losing territory under fierce Russian assault in the east.

European countries previously had purchased American weapons for Ukraine during the Biden administration.
U.S. officials, including Trump’s Ukrainian envoy, retired Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, will discuss the possible weapons purchases with European allies this week during the Munich Security Conference, the sources said.
It is one of several ideas the administration is discussing to potentially continue U.S. weapons shipments to Kyiv without expending significant U.S. capital, they added.

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In an interview on Monday with Reuters, Kellogg declined to confirm the plan but said, "The U.S. always likes selling weapons made in America because it strengthens our economy.
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The Trump White House would likely face significant pushback from some Republicans if it moves forward with asking for additional funding from Congress.

Administration officials view an arms purchase deal with Europe as a potential workaround, allowing Washington to support Kyiv without spending U.S. taxpayer dollars. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said last month that Europe would pay for U.S. arms for Ukraine.




This is the obvious solution. Ukraine needs more weapons, but the Trump administration can't/won't authorize new spending at a time when DOGE is slashing spending. So, the answer is simple: let Ukraine/Europe buy the weapons.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:47 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 5:00 am to
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Do you even Constitution, Bro?

Of course, you don't...


I certainly do Constitution, bro.

Please explain to me how the ruling of a federal court judge is enforced.

Think very long and hard before you answer.
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