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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:15 am to VolSquatch
Yes, absolutely. Let's talk about trolling.
First of all, trolling doesn't necessarily involve lies or deceit. A troll can post something true, but what makes a post a trolling attempt is that it is posted simply in an attempt to upset others.
And trolls often mix the serious and the absurd. They do that in the hope that readers will find the serious part compelling and then ascribe credibility to the absurd part.
First of all, trolling doesn't necessarily involve lies or deceit. A troll can post something true, but what makes a post a trolling attempt is that it is posted simply in an attempt to upset others.
And trolls often mix the serious and the absurd. They do that in the hope that readers will find the serious part compelling and then ascribe credibility to the absurd part.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:23 am to VolSquatch
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The play the entire time on the Trump side imo has been to tell Putin that aid is going to ramp up if he doesn't stop, and to tell Zelensky that aid isn't going to last forever and he needs to start being realistic about peace demands.
Zelensky is already doing that, though. He's already telling his countrymen that Ukraine isn't going to recover Crimea and the Donbas through military means. He's opening the door to a "frozen conflict," as long as it comes with the security guarantees that Russia won't invade again.
I firmly believe that this is why Zelensky is resisting the calls for a greater mobilization right now. He knows that the war is either going to wind down soon (in which case he won't need the men), or the West is about to significantly increase aid (in which case, his men will have better support and he'll have an easier time mobilizing them).
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:27 am to Stinger_1066
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So you deny that money laundering on a massive scale is not going on?
Is aid to Ukraine still going to be money laundering when the Trump administration is sending it?
That's a serious question.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:27 am to Stinger_1066
How to spot and Underpants Gnome
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:28 am to GOP_Tiger
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Y'all have been talking about the first part of that sentence, but no one wants to talk about the second part?
Where are SirWinston and texag and the other Putin-lovers who promised that Trump would stop all aid to Ukraine on Day 1? They promised many, many times that it would happen.
I've been refreshing every 30 seconds, waiting for them to admit that they were completely wrong.
Aren't all of you Ukraine bros and Troskyites ashamed you didn't vote for him now?
Can we call you and Leon MAGA Bros now?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:34 am to Lee B
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Well, that blows some Putin Bros hopes and dreams right out of the water, will boost the shite out of the profits of the Arms sector ( and the US economy) and I will say I'm glad to be wrong about what I expected him to do... and I hope it holds.
Hey Leon. You MAGA now?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:45 am to GOP_Tiger
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Is aid to Ukraine still going to be money laundering when the Trump administration is sending it?
That's a serious question.
If it isn't watched over and properly accounted for, then yes.
But I trust Trump and DOGE to keep a better eye on things than Biden.
Biden was a participant in the laundering. Trump won't be.
That is a serious answer.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:46 am to CitizenK
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How to spot and Underpants Gnome
How to spot someone who cannot express a cogent opinion.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:50 am to AU86
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Aren't all of you Ukraine bros and Troskyites ashamed you didn't vote for him now?
Aren't you ashamed that you continue to try to hijack this thread to be about US domestic politics instead of Ukraine? No, of course not.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:43 am to GOP_Tiger
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GOP_Tiger
Have you considered moving to Ukraine? I bet you would like it more than America
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:02 am to texag7
Cope harder, you anti-American swine.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:15 am to Coeur du Tigre
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The European banks holding these funds didn't object to the sources of this money but will do anything, including destroying the reputation of the German government to keep it. Reminds us of the Swiss banks fighting tooth and nail to keep the funds deposited by thousands of Holocaust victims.
Exactly and "seizing" is a nice word for theft.
The US has 20 trillion dollars abroad, wonder how that works out now that we are crossing the Rubicon.
Let me guess, the big fellas on this thread would never let that happen to American businesses.
Brazil just did it to Musk and they are threatening a 6% tax if he does not remove any opposing views in the EU. In both instances our state department has done nothing.
But go ahead and try and steal Russia's money, I dont think it will work out like you think.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:16 am to GOP_Tiger
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What really pisses me off is the US "loaned" 20 billion to Ukraine this month to be "guaranteed" by Russia assets seized. Russia will want that money back,
ROFL. I love this thread.
Truly, the ignorance of some is laughable
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:18 am to GOP_Tiger
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as the reports of the awesomeness of Oreshnik.
"Its not supersonic". Did a missile just blow up six embassies and dozens of other buildings? Yeah but it wasnt supersonic.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:21 am to GOP_Tiger
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Zelensky is already doing that, though. He's already telling his countrymen that Ukraine isn't going to recover Crimea and the Donbas through military means.
This is completely accurate, and why your point overall isnt accurate. The "through military means" part of that comment is doing a lot of work here.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:56 am to trinidadtiger
Theft is the only word Russia understands apparently. That’s all they are doing right now in Ukraine. Theft of land, kidnapping children, and killing civilians.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:58 am to trinidadtiger
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"Its not supersonic". Did a missile just blow up six embassies and dozens of other buildings? Yeah but it wasnt supersonic.
It was 5 each ballistic missiles which were all shot down and the debris is what caused damage,.additionally some drones.involved. As a rule ballistic missiles are hypersonic as they use the earth's gravity to reach such speeds.
Russia does NOT have an actual hypersonic missile without need for the earth's gravity to increase speed.
Try harder.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:20 am to trinidadtiger
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But go ahead and try and steal Russia's money, I dont think it will work out like you think.
You are correct. No one should steal their money.
Now should they make Russia pay for what they broke and who they hurt? Certainly.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:24 pm to VolSquatch
Things are getting desperate in Ukraine
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