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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Quoting your earlier post as a reminder of the main reasons:
It is even more hollow since that isn't the main reason for Putin's actions. That is just the sympathy deriving talking point.
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You are listening to Putin and taking his words as proof of his motives.
This isn't about the Russian heritage of some of the regions of Ukraine, at least VERY little.
This isn't really even about NATO on his doorstep or narrowing the army accessible land avenue into the European Plain farther back toward the Fulda gap.
It is about oil/gas and water. It is about making Russia a larger petrostate. They want the rest of the offshore gas fields they didn't get when they took Crimea. They want the shale oil reserves in Eastern and Western Ukraine. They want the pipelines that run from Russia across central Ukraine and to avoid paying tariffs, even though they have built multiple pipelines to avoid them already like the multiple Nord Stream pipelines that go around the north and south of Ukraine. It is about opening the water back up from the Dnipro river to Crimea through the North Crimean Canal. Not so much because he gives a frick about the Crimean people but because Sevastopol is there and it is the only military port Russia has that is ice-free year-round.
Putin suckered a lot of people in with his rambling Russian history lesson and appeal to reunite ethnic Russians with their motherland. He got even more talking about the what-if of how we would feel with missiles in Cuba, Mexico, or Canada. Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!
The real reason Russia invaded a sovereign country was money. Liquid and gaseous dinosaur bones (algae but it isn't as poetic) and that other liquid gold called water. He is just a thug thief in an ill-fitting (track) suit he just hides his gold chains on his wrists as watches. He isn't fricking Moses shepherding his people he is just an armed robber intent on stealing Ukraine and their riches. Applaud him for that if you are going to applaud.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:24 pm to OMLandshark
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Ehhh, everyone’s dated a psycho before and then finally came to their senses. Got to learn to let things go.
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OMLandshark
The voice of reason.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:42 pm to LegendInMyMind
Just coming in to note this is a piss poor spectators war.
They should have hired the producer and director from the 2003 Iraq invasion.
They should have hired the producer and director from the 2003 Iraq invasion.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:47 pm to Obtuse1
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@Acosta
WH: Vice President Kamala Harris will travel to Warsaw, Poland and Bucharest, Romania March 9-11.

Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:53 pm to When in Rome
Reported by Ukraine, but damn if it's even close to right
LINK
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Total combat losses of Russian invaders (24 Feb – 4 March): 9166 troops; 251 tanks; 939 armored vehicles; 105 artillery systems; 50 rocket systems; 18 anti-aircraft systems; 33 aircraft (preliminary report); 37 helicopters (preliminary report); 404 military auto vehicles; 60 fuel trucks; 2 UAV operational-tactical level . Information is being updated and verified. — General Staff of AFU
LINK
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:59 pm to StormyMcMan
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OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
Per the @TheStudyofWar map, you can see that the Russian forces that bypassed Sumy continue to move towards Kyiv, aiming to cut off Chernihiv, and attack Kyiv itself.
Progress has slowed though, as they meet heavier resistance and begin to have supply issues.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:04 pm to LaBR4
quote:I don't know about the military but the Country itself is quite alluring...
How strong is the Finland Millie-tree?
"Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be
Pony trekking or camping or just watch T.V.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
It's the country for me
You're so near to Russia
So far away from Japan
Quite a long way from Cairo
Lots of miles from Vietnam
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be
Eating breakfast or dinner
Or snack lunch in the hall
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all
You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored
A poor second to Belgium
When going abroad
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all"
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:16 pm to When in Rome
quote:
@Acosta
WH: Vice President Kamala Harris will travel to Warsaw, Poland and Bucharest, Romania March 9-11.
Can we please make this permanent?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:30 pm to When in Rome
quote:
@Acosta
WH: Vice President Kamala Harris will travel to Warsaw, Poland and Bucharest, Romania March 9-11.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yeah, the genius who has a fifth grade education on world geography is going to be the one to resolve this.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:34 pm to OMLandshark
Burger King and McDonald's are staying in Russia.
Chick Fil A Doesn't have a location in Russia

Chick Fil A Doesn't have a location in Russia
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:35 pm to When in Rome
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WH: Vice President Kamala Harris will travel to Warsaw, Poland and Bucharest, Romania March 9-11.
Way to Geaux, Kamala, bring 'em some support bebe
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
Somewhat off topic, but how much did gas prices go up overnight where y'all live?
We saw a 35-40 cents per gallon increase overnight here in the FL panhandle, I guess I should've gotten gas yesterday instead of today
This one is all on the Biden administration too, no bullshite about Ukraine and Russia causing this will pass the smell test with those of us that actually stay informed.
We had energy independence under the Trump admin and it cost me HALF as much to fill up my Tacoma then, now under the Biden admin it's costing me double because we rely on Russia too fricking much like idiots. Everyone saw this coming too, for years now.
/End rant
We saw a 35-40 cents per gallon increase overnight here in the FL panhandle, I guess I should've gotten gas yesterday instead of today
This one is all on the Biden administration too, no bullshite about Ukraine and Russia causing this will pass the smell test with those of us that actually stay informed.
We had energy independence under the Trump admin and it cost me HALF as much to fill up my Tacoma then, now under the Biden admin it's costing me double because we rely on Russia too fricking much like idiots. Everyone saw this coming too, for years now.
/End rant
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:37 pm to RazorBroncs
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but how much did gas prices go up overnight where y'all live?
3.19 Wed; 3.69 today
EDIT: BTW, these are the current gas prices in SoCal:
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:37 pm to RazorBroncs
I paid $3.59 yesterday. On Monday it was $3.29 at my normal place. Online it still says $3.59 today.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:38 pm to RazorBroncs

This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:39 pm to RazorBroncs
Biggest jump in gas prices since Hurricane Katrina 
Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:40 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:
no bullshite about Ukraine and Russia causing this will pass the smell test with those of us that actually stay informed.
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