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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:31 pm to
News: Senate votes 80-19 to end debate on the House-passed Israel/Ukraine aid bill that includes the TikTok divest bill.

Up to 30 hours of debate starts now, they could vote on final passage as soon as this evening.


Carla Babb
@CarlaBabbVOA
#BREAKING Sr WH Official to VOA-
@POTUS
ordered DOD deliver military equipment to #Poland and #Germany "a few weeks ago" in anticipation of supplemental to ensure prompt shipment of military aid to #Ukraine ; expect 'substantial' aid package immediately after
@POTUS
signs into law
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:52 pm to
Ukraine and the Age of Cowards

Konstantin Kisin telling the truth.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:21 pm to
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Ukraine will keep blowing up Russian oil refineries, they'll keep targeting their ships, and they'll keep blowing up Russian equipment.

Russia better hope they can keep production high while their oil money dries up.


Russia can "capture" all the villages it wants, but when the supply lines get cut to them, they can't keep them... and Ukraine does not need to send a large amount of troops to destroy the Kerch bridge, sink supply ships and barges crossing to Crimea, or obliterate railroad lines and roads. Especially if they do that all at once... in, say, the rainy season...
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:22 pm to
Official: Denmark to Send F-16s to Ukraine

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In late March, Poulsen outlined that Denmark would be donating 19 F-16s to Ukraine, where officials have long sought access to the fighter jet in order to modernize its air force and improve its defense ability following Russia’s invasion in 2022.

The first F-16 aircraft are expected to be delivered to Ukraine this summer.


https://www.flyingmag.com/denmark-to-donate-f-16s-to-ukraine/
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:45 pm to
It's not like the Ukes were totally out of shells. More like they didn't know when they would get more. So they had each gun down to 10 or 12 rounds per day instead of 50 or 60.

Now that they know more are on the way they can begin increasing the fire rate immediately.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:56 pm to

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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:06 pm to
You could cut outr the middleman and instead of posting stuff from ZeroHedge just post the same stuff from Russia Today or the Kremlins daily email list.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 6:08 pm
Posted by texag7
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:07 pm to
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In late March, Poulsen outlined that Denmark would be donating 19 F-16s to Ukraine, where officials have long sought access to the fighter jet in order to modernize its air force and improve its defense ability following Russia’s invasion in 2022.


Isn’t going to change anything. Can they learn to fly them in one day? What a waste of equipment
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:08 pm to
The bill for Americans to foot the bill of building Ukraine back better after the war is over will be amazing. Really.

“If you don’t a have a money, just give us a creedit!”
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3970 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Isn’t going to change anything. Can they learn to fly them in one day? What a waste of equipment


You've been sleeping through the stories about Ukrainian pilots being trained in F-16s for the past year, eh?

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3970 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

The bill for Americans to foot the bill of building Ukraine back better after the war is over will be amazing. Really.

“If you don’t a have a money, just give us a creedit!”


Russian War Reparations will do that... I hear Russia has oil and natural gas, that could be managed by some other entity to make sure they pay the reparations.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Ukraine does not need to send a large amount of troops to destroy the Kerch bridge


Right now, Ukraine does not have a good way to destroy Kerch. They really need Taurus for that, and Germany isn't giving it.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:52 pm to
Confirmation that Russian bases in Crimea will soon be feeling the heat, as long-range ATACMS will likely be in Ukraine by the weekend.

LINK

quote:




The Biden administration is preparing a new aid package for Ukraine that is expected to be worth around $1 billion, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN, and is set to be approved by President Joe Biden after the Senate passes a new foreign aid funding bill as soon as Tuesday afternoon.

In briefings to Congress in recent weeks, administration officials have indicated that the US will likely send Ukraine long-range ATACMS, or Army Tactical Missile Systems, for the first time as part of the new aid package, three of the sources said.

Last fall the US first sent Ukraine the midrange variant of the ATACMS missile system, which can reach about 100 miles, while the longer-range version can reach as far as 190 miles.


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:56 pm to

quote:

So, it's probably time for some ignoramus here to again claim that Europe needs to do its fair share.




quote:

They really need Taurus for that, and Germany isn't giving it.





How ironic.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

quote:
In late March, Poulsen outlined that Denmark would be donating 19 F-16s to Ukraine, where officials have long sought access to the fighter jet in order to modernize its air force and improve its defense ability following Russia’s invasion in 2022.


Isn’t going to change anything. Can they learn to fly them in one day? What a waste of equipment


They've been training for a while. As has been the case many times before, contractors for both flight and maintenance could easily be arranged.

The biggest thing they can do is to make a dent in those big glide bombers that are causing trouble on the front lines and in towns targeted.

quote:

First group of Ukrainian pilots to complete US F-16 training by summe


https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-02-21-24/h_843b76b8fdbb2223aa343234546438c3
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Can they learn to fly them in one day?


No. But I'm so glad you thought of that? Have you considered emailing this information to NATO?

Because the F-16 training programs all over the world that have been full of Ukrainian pilots these past 8 months will be glad to know their efforts aren't in vain.

quote:

What a waste of equipment


You're right. It has been wasted sitting in peaceful countries that weren't about to be invaded by Russia.

Good thing they're going to Ukraine where they won't be wasted much longer.

Thanks for your insight. Edgy. Really made me think.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Confirmation that Russian bases in Crimea will soon be feeling the heat, as long-range ATACMS will likely be in Ukraine by the weekend.


It is reported that a substantial stockpile is in Poland waiting for Congress to get its act together.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13530 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:01 pm to
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Last fall the US first sent Ukraine the midrange variant of the ATACMS missile system, which can reach about 100 miles, while the longer-range version can reach as far as 190 miles.


It's so retarded that we report this in the press.

The first time the Russians should read about it is in their own damage control reports
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21056 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

The bill for Americans to foot the bill of building Ukraine back better after the war is over will be amazing. Really.

“If you don’t a have a money, just give us a creedit!”


Russian War Reparations will do that... I hear Russia has oil and natural gas, that could be managed by some other entity to make sure they pay the reparations.


That's why NATO countries need to use the seized Russian money. We already have what we need, and the congressional bill calls for $8 billion in seized Russian assets to be used exactly that way.

If we follow through with that, it will put pressure on European countries to do the same.
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