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Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:13 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:13 am to
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Out of curiosity, are there any countries or international organizations actively seeking to bring Ukraine and Russia together to come to a settled peace and end this war?


at trusting Putin and the pinko crew
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:22 am to
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What exactly was objectionable about my post?


What was argumentative in mine. You asked if anyone was pushing for peace and I listed out several
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:22 am to
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Maybe they could just import hordes of Africans like the rest of Europe?


And? Immigration is good for everyone except moron nationalists who for some reason think cultures are immutable.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116930 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:29 am to
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Maybe they could just import hordes of Africans like the rest of Europe?

Immigrants will be half of the Russian population by 2050
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:29 am to
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And? Immigration is good for everyone except moron nationalists who for some reason think cultures are immutable.


The why do liberals hate colonialism so much?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:38 am to
great question tbh
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:48 am to
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And? Immigration is good for everyone except moron nationalists who for some reason think cultures are immutable.


Can I see your data on importing low IQ males at excessive rates leads to more positive outcomes?
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:49 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:48 am to
What’s funny is the war critics here complain about the cost to the US and how it’s draining our treasury, but they completely ignore the drain on the Russian treasury and even act as if Russia can afford a prolonged war.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:50 am to
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What’s funny is the war critics here complain about the cost to the US and how it’s draining our treasury, but they completely ignore the drain on the Russian treasury and even act as if Russia can afford a prolonged war.



Because they can. The real cost of the war in the end are men. So unless the West sends in men, Russia just needs to wait them out.

Sure, you can talk about the economics of it, but that is results that will not truly be analyzed much later after the last drop of blood is spilled.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:51 am to
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And? Immigration is good for everyone


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:53 am to
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An organization with alleged ties to Russian First Deputy Presidential Chief of Staff Sergey Kiriyenko is reportedly categorizing Russian internet user data in an effort to disseminate tailored information to specific domestic populations as part of a wider attempt to control the Russian information space.


You don’t say.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8053 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:53 am to
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Because they can. The real cost of the war in the end are men. So unless the West sends in men, Russia just needs to wait them out.


I get what you're saying totally, but the statement is kind of a paradox, no? Russia's tab is infinitely higher than the west at this moment if it's just about men.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:59 am to
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I get what you're saying totally, but the statement is kind of a paradox, no? Russia's tab is infinitely higher than the west at this moment if it's just about men.


Its just true at this moment yes.

Its not like we dont have problems. My food bill is 3X what it was just a few years ago and Im an not buying 3X more.

At some point, our cracks will start to show in more serious ways for Americans.

I do not believe it is so much an argument of comparing our economy /Wests vs Russia as much as can the West win with Ukraine's men before our cracks widen to the point we cannot ignore/Band-Aid over. Its coming.

To this, I do not think Ukraine has enough men nor resources to beat this timeline.

This will not be the ME 2.0. At some point the body bags will be to high for the region to endure.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:01 am to
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a settled peace should be reached?


But what would that entail? Trusting Russia? Remember they already agreed in writing to protect Ukraine’s sovereignty.

Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116930 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:04 am to
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But what would that entail? Trusting Russia?
Exactly. Agreements mean nothing to Putin.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:06 am to
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, I don’t see either side meeting in the middle to go the peace route at this time.


The problem is if you are stuck in the middle you will get run over. Ukraine would eventually get run over. Russia would never quit. They’d bide their time and launch again under some other pretext.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:06 am to
Nah, it won’t involve trusting Russia.

Ukraine is going to get an “Israel” deal after this. Russia isn’t going to get another bite at this apple and they know it, which is why they’re going to try to get as much as they can from this as possible. I think Russia puts this on autopilot and sends more blood for the blood god until the west gets tired of giving equipment or Ukraine runs out of will.

Russia has communicated where they think negotiations should start by their legislative actions to annex those regions.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:07 am to
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Exactly. Agreements mean nothing to Putin.
So what’s the alternative?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:11 am to
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Because they can.


They couldn’t in WWI. They couldn’t win in WWII without us.

Russians will grow tired of sacrificing lives and they will grow tired of cutting back. No, it won’t happen over night, but it can happen there too just like it happened to the US in Vietnam.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116930 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:11 am to
I don't know. Try to defend yourself against Russia until it dies. How do you expect me to come up with how to stop Russian aggression? No one else has for hundreds of years.
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