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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:14 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:14 am to
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Its not like we dont have problems. My food bill is 3X what it was just a few years ago and Im an not buying 3X more.


Don’t be fooled. None of this has anything to do with the war. Covid, the rampant spending as a result, then Biden’s huge climate control deal did us in. The war spending is pennies compared to the other deals.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:15 am to
by continually supporting ukraine to give them the best chance to fight back against russia so that russia doesnt just get what it wants and then putting ukraine on the fast track to both the EU and NATO so that russia deosnt do this again?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:16 am to
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Don’t be fooled. None of this has anything to do with the war
It was shutting down the economy followed by those multiple trillion-dollar bailouts.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:16 am to
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It was shutting down the economy followed by those multiple trillion-dollar bailouts.

Bingo
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:22 am to
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by continually supporting ukraine to give them the best chance to fight back against russia so that russia doesnt just get what it wants and then putting ukraine on the fast track to both the EU and NATO so that russia deosnt do this again?


You guys are delusional. Ukraine isn’t going to push Russia back to the original borders and they aren’t going to be accepted into NATO.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:24 am to
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Can I see your data on importing low IQ males at excessive rates leads to more positive outcomes?


The issue is less education rather than actually lower IQ's. Who would have thought that Nigerian immigrants have full benefit of UK's school system early would result in as high or higher test scores for entering universities?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:31 am to
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You guys are delusional. Ukraine isn’t going to push Russia back to the original borders and they aren’t going to be accepted into NATO.


That looks to be the case.
So what is the solution?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:40 am to
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The why do liberals hate colonialism so much?



Because it was a pretty pointless exercise.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:41 am to
Is your dumbass still going to run with the 'low debt burden' you complete moron?

I'll vote in anything that will replace people like you. There's no point to you.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:42 am to


but trusting russia will adhere to treatries and agreements isnt delusional
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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The issue is less education rather than actually lower IQ's. Who would have thought that Nigerian immigrants have full benefit of UK's school system early would result in as high or higher test scores for entering universities?



You can look at this map and pick whatever singled out country you must to make a point, but it does not dispute the facts of the overwhelming majority...

LINK

I could simply point to Japan with ZERO Africans immigration and, well, would be too easy to go there...

Sure, its education.... SO if that were the case, would it not be better to colonize Africa? Again? Or just maybe you know build some schools? Surely this would fix it......

I think to the point of the originals post, no, not all cultures mix.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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Its just true at this moment yes.

Its not like we dont have problems. My food bill is 3X what it was just a few years ago and Im an not buying 3X more.

At some point, our cracks will start to show in more serious ways for Americans.

I do not believe it is so much an argument of comparing our economy /Wests vs Russia as much as can the West win with Ukraine's men before our cracks widen to the point we cannot ignore/Band-Aid over. Its coming.

To this, I do not think Ukraine has enough men nor resources to beat this timeline.

This will not be the ME 2.0. At some point the body bags will be too high for the region to endure.


Inflation has more to do with cracks in the global trading system, AND in large the cost of labor in the USA. Labor costs have gone up at least 25%, since last year, IF you can find sufficient numbers of the workers. Boomers have been the unluckiest of generations due entering a saturated workforce and oversaturating it. They have retired in record numbers the last decade, if not two, leaving gaping holes in our labor force, in experience and work ethic.

As for Ukraine, they have a similar demographics collapse issue to Russia, though not quite as bad.

Edit: It is true that at least a million fighting age men fled Russia in 2022.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 10:52 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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Can I see your data on importing low IQ males at excessive rates leads to more positive outcomes?



It's extremely ironic that you of all people reference IQ given the content of your posts. Also, when the options are complete demographic collapse or immigration, which one is preferable?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:45 am to
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but trusting russia will adhere to treatries and agreements isnt delusional


Well I never implied we should trust Russia so not really sure what you’re talking about.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:45 am to
so then what is your solution?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:47 am to
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Because it was a pretty pointless exercise.


I mean, Americans colonized the frick out of this continent and it’s worked out pretty well for us.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:47 am to
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It's extremely ironic that you of all people reference IQ given the content of your posts. Also, when the options are complete demographic collapse or immigration, which one is preferable?


You can keep saying they are collapsing but it doenst make it true. Just like they apparently ran out of bombs, men, missiles, ammo, guns etc last year. Yet, here we are....
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:49 am to
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Sure, its education.... SO if that were the case, would it not be better to colonize Africa? Again? Or just maybe you know build some schools? Surely this would fix it......



Given that proper nutrition can account for a one SD (or more) increase in IQ's, as well as things like the Flynn Effect, the effects of things like air filtration and decreased pollution on IQ and several other mediating factors, and given the overall crime trends in the developed world, we will probably be alright with increased immigration.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:49 am to
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Well I never implied we should trust Russia so not really sure what you’re talking about.


Well, you trust that you cant trust them and plan accordingly. You can surely get a peace deal with this in mind.

For anyone to think there is no better solution than war is not that bright. Not saying you think that. Just a general statement.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:50 am to
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so then what is your solution?


Why do I need a solution? I don’t live in Europe much less in Ukraine. I suppose if the Europeans were really that concerned about Russian aggression they could send their armies to help Ukraine out a bit.
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