Started By
Message

re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23755 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Anybody hearing roomers that a nato command center was hit near bakhumut (sp?)

A roomer and a boarder walk into a bar …
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17905 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

On the subject of Russian disinformation operations here in the United States, here is a story about “Donbas Devushka”, a pro-Russia social media influencer who claims to be Ukrainian, but who is actually a Navy vet born in New Jersey who lives in Washington state. Interesting stuff.



This war has certainly amplified some unique American LARPers. On the pro-Ukrainian side, we had James Vasquez falsely claiming to be a vet of both the Iraq War and Desert Storm, and we also have the "transwoman" who exposed him, Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, who serves as a combat medic in the Ukrainian Army.

"Donbas Devushka" is a very interesting pro-Russian character. Here's another intersting story about her and her grift.

But LARPing grifters are not only American, of course. Don't forget "Canadian Ukrainian Volunteer" from earlier in the war.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

To be very, very clear and on the record - I firmly believe that Russia is a shithole country with a corrupt and criminal government. Both their systems and individual leaders are recognizably more corrupt that the US in general.




Great, but you missed the point of my statement.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5742 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:30 pm to
If Ukraine could hold the big offensive until mid-late summer they would possibly have an extra 100-130 western tanks to put into the attack. That has the the ability to change the entire outcome of the offensive Ukraine is planning. Maybe by July they can get at least half of the 100-130 Leopard 1 tanks there as well as the 31 M1A1 Abrams. It’s really good that Italy is sending dozens of it’s M109A3 SPGs and that it had in storage along with the 19 Caesar SPGs from Denmark because this offensive has to be all about mobility with superior weaponry and tactics than what the Russians have. Having enough quality self propelled howitzers will give the advancing armored as well as infantry units the ability to advance under cover of artillery fire and also be able to keep advancing with those spearhead units as they take more ground allowing Ukrainian artillery to advance and strike deeper and deeper behind Russian lines at troop or ammunition concentrations. Having good towed artillery is still vitally important but when you plan is all about timing and speed you don’t want to have to waste time setting up towed guns and then breaking them back down to travel then do it all again. This is why I was glad to see Ukraine producing 122 mm old Soviet rounds from a nearby neighboring country because they still have a large quantity of Soviet 2S1 SPGs that were running low on 122 mm shells but if they can be given enough ammunition would greatly increase Ukraine’s mobile firepower.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17905 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:31 pm to
WSJ on Donbas Devushka:

Social-Media Account Overseen by Former Navy Noncommissioned Officer Helped Spread Secrets



quote:

A social-media account overseen by a former U.S. Navy noncommissioned officer—a prominent online voice supporting Russia’s war on Ukraine—played a key role in the spread of intelligence documents allegedly leaked by Airman First Class Jack Teixeira, reposting files from obscure online chat rooms.

A purported Russian blogger known as Donbass Devushka, which translates as Donbas Girl, is the face of a network of pro-Kremlin social media, podcasting, merchandise and fundraising accounts. But the person who hosted podcasts as Donbass Devushka and oversees these accounts is a Washington-state based former U.S. enlisted aviation electronics technician whose real name is Sarah Bils.
quote:

Ms. Bils, 37 years old, served at the U.S. naval air station on Whidbey Island until late last year, even as the accounts she had established and supervised glorified the Russian military and the paramilitary Wagner Group. They are among the most widely followed English-language social-media outlets promoting Russia’s views.

In an interview Saturday at her home in Oak Harbor, Wash., Ms. Bils said she is an administrator of the Donbass Devushka persona, and acknowledged raising funds and hosting podcasts under that name. She added, however, that she is one of 15 people “all over the world” involved in running the Donbass Devushka network. Ms. Bils declined to identify these people.

On April 5, the Donbass Devushka Telegram account posted four of the allegedly leaked classified documents to its 65,000 followers, according to a screenshot seen by The Wall Street Journal. That led several large Russian social-media accounts to pick up on the documents, after which the Pentagon launched an investigation. Ms. Bils says another administrator posted the four files.

There is no evidence that Ms. Bils, who had a security clearance during her Navy service, has used that access to steal any classified information herself. “I obviously know the gravity of top-secret classified materials. We didn’t leak them,” she said.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36090 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:11 pm to
Pilot, nothing is static. The longer Ukraine waits the better prepared the Russians get.

They may have already waited too long.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64657 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

f Ukraine could hold the big offensive until mid-late summer they would possibly have an extra 100-130 western tanks to put into the attack. That has the the ability to change the entire outcome of the offensive Ukraine is planning. Maybe by July they can get at least half of the 100-130 Leopard 1 tanks there as well as the 31 M1A1 Abrams. It’s really good that Italy is sending dozens of it’s M109A3 SPGs and that it had in storage along with the 19 Caesar SPGs from Denmark because this offensive has to be all about mobility with superior weaponry and tactics than what the Russians have. Having enough quality self propelled howitzers will give the advancing armored as well as infantry units the ability to advance under cover of artillery fire and also be able to keep advancing with those spearhead units as they take more ground allowing Ukrainian artillery to advance and strike deeper and deeper behind Russian lines at troop or ammunition concentrations. Having good towed artillery is still vitally important but when you plan is all about timing and speed you don’t want to have to waste time setting up towed guns and then breaking them back down to travel then do it all again. This is why I was glad to see Ukraine producing 122 mm old Soviet rounds from a nearby neighboring country because they still have a large quantity of Soviet 2S1 SPGs that were running low on 122 mm shells but if they can be given enough ammunition would greatly increase Ukraine’s mobile firepower.


The biggest mistake Hitler made in Operation Zitadelle was repeatedly pushing it back in order to bring up more panzers. What he failed to realize is that every delay in launching what we know know as the Battle of Kursk, gave the Soviets more time to strengthen the multi-tiered deep defenses of Central and Voronezh Fronts, thus dooming the German offensive to be ground down before achieving a breakthrough.

Ukraine would do well to remember the past or they will find themselves doomed to repeat it.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9542 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:28 pm to
Her real life photo likely shows 500 lbs of female blubber and 1 inch thick glasses
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17905 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Ukraine would do well to remember the past or they will find themselves doomed to repeat it.



I tend to agree, and I think the political imperative of a victory would prevail in any case, even if the military thought it better to wait.

quote:

Maybe by July they can get at least half of the 100-130 Leopard 1 tanks there as well as the 31 M1A1 Abrams. It’s really good that Italy is sending dozens of it’s M109A3 SPGs and that it had in storage along with the 19 Caesar SPGs from Denmark because this offensive has to be all about mobility with superior weaponry and tactics than what the Russians have.


I think that, realizing that they have Leopard 1s and Abrams coming later, Ukraine will simply risk more of the Soviet tanks that they have -- they don't have to keep as much in reserve.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17905 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 4:25 pm to
Molfar has an interesting analysis of the recent increase in Ukrainian targeting of Russian radar and electronic warfare resources.



Since Ukraine concentrated on attacking these systems in advance of prior offensives, Molfar concludes that these current attacks indicate that the Ukrainian offensive is imminent.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 4:48 pm to
I’ll see if I can find it but saw a vid of a Company of Strykers with front vehicle having mine clearance array, second vehicle double Javelin setup then the rest anti personnel configuration.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9542 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

I’ll see if I can find it but saw a vid of a Company of Strykers with front vehicle having mine clearance array, second vehicle double Javelin setup then the rest anti personnel configuration.


Ukraine got a host of mine clearing vehicles and other engineering equipment from European nations. The trenches and dragon teeth will be the easiest obstacles to break through (they really aren't that formidable)
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

I think that, realizing that they have Leopard 1s and Abrams coming later, Ukraine will simply risk more of the Soviet tanks that they have -- they don't have to keep as much in reserve.


That’s what I would think. They’ve done well with them thus far on offensives. If they can sustain an offensive long enough the timing of the leopards and abrams could furnish a second wave or an offensive in another direction after attention has been drawn to the first.

Agree with you and Vader, the longer they continue to wait the more Russian builds defenses making their work harder, slower, and more vulnerable.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11818 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

The biggest mistake Hitler made in Operation Zitadelle was repeatedly pushing it back in order to bring up more panzers.


This was the first thing that came to my mind. Hitler held off for a few months waiting on the newer panzers to hit the front. That gave the Russians time to build layered defenses and shore up their forces.

But Russia knew where the attack was going and aerial surveillance is not what it is today.

Russia knows an attack is coming. But not the when or where. They have ideas where one should go but that’s it. Last year then pulled forces to go to Kherson and then were hit in Kharkiv.

We know the US in sending inter and war gaming there to hit. It one thing to pick the best area to hit but Ukraine will need to show they have learned something from their western training

I still think attack earlier is better than waiting. Losing a lot of their solving era tanks isn’t bad knowing they have more modern, western tanks coming. Also, gives them more time to train/learn to maintain.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33132 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 6:56 pm to
Honest question. I’m in the process of submitting tax info and I noticed that I owe a bit to the feds. Are any the pro Ukraine war folks fine with their taxes going to Ukraine?
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3144 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Are any the pro Ukraine war folks fine with their taxes going to Ukraine?

I’m ok with it. Post your venmo account and I’ll shoot over the $40 your personal taxes have been used to support this war
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33132 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:05 pm to
$40 is peanuts. I just was curious about the thought process . When you owe $ to the IRS do you grin knowing it’s going to Ukraine?
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3144 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Ancient Astronaut

I’m not poor, I’m not a 1099, I don’t owe money to the IRS

But to get down to brass tacks, no I don’t grin at paying $40 to the government to stomp out our biggest enemy since WWII. I did my time in our military. Paying essentially a bar tab per year to ensure the Russians lose is nothing.

My personal commitment during my service was surely a lot more than that.

How was your time in the service?
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33132 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:08 pm to
Must be nice. State of Louisiana hates high earners. I need to move to Texas or Florida
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3144 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:14 pm to
I don’t live in LA. South of I-10 folks that care about taxes going to Ukraine should look to their own state government. That’s where the real grifting is.
first pageprev pagePage 2649 of 3795Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram