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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:26 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:26 pm to StormyMcMan
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quote:Russia isn't trying to get richer, isn't trying to conquer other countries, isn't trying to subjugate anyone
I mean how does he say that with a straight face
He probably read that on the PT board.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:27 pm to StormyMcMan
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Didn't really know where else to post but shite going down in Sudan this morning
Saw that too. Wonder what the cause is? Of course we have the recent leak indicating Egypt supplied the Russians with artillery and Egypt and Sudan neighbor and are pretty tight. The Russians and Chinese compete for influence in Sudan.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 4:41 pm to DabosDynasty
Rival generals for power of the government.
China has long been a supporter of Chad, decades long
China has long been a supporter of Chad, decades long
Posted on 4/15/23 at 5:11 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 4/15/23 at 5:51 pm to TacoNash
Italy, like Finland and some other NATO countries, has not publicly announced much of its aid to Ukraine.
The M109L is equivalent to a M109A3. It's an older M109 that got a barrel replacement late in the Cold War, so that it now has a 15-mile range.
Italy is believed to have had just over 100 M109L SPGs left in storage. Italy has fully transitioned to the PzH 2000 and doesn't need these older SPGs, so they are apparently sending them all to Ukraine. As indicated above, two trains that both had over 20 each on them moved through Italy today on their way to Ukraine.
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Yesterday at a train station in Udine, around 20 or more Italian M109L’s which were previously revisioned would be spotted. These are definitely going to Ukraine, it seems like Italy is likely going to deliver all the M109L’s they had left in storage to Ukraine.
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At Vincenza earlier today. Another batch of M109L’s.
The M109L is equivalent to a M109A3. It's an older M109 that got a barrel replacement late in the Cold War, so that it now has a 15-mile range.
Italy is believed to have had just over 100 M109L SPGs left in storage. Italy has fully transitioned to the PzH 2000 and doesn't need these older SPGs, so they are apparently sending them all to Ukraine. As indicated above, two trains that both had over 20 each on them moved through Italy today on their way to Ukraine.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 5:54 pm to GOP_Tiger
Are they still low on 155 shells?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:07 pm to upgrayedd
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Are they still low on 155 shells?
They should have what they need for this offensive, though of course we don't know how much they've been able to stockpile in recent months.
Ukraine was promised a lot of ammo during the last two Ramstein conferences, and the US obviously included more in its last commitment.
The bigger deal is that the EU just approved an ammo package worth 2 billion Euros. The EU is going to reimburse countries for 1 billion Euros of immediate ammo contributions, and the other half of the money is going to production contracts.
But the problem is that Ukraine will use hundreds of thousands of rounds in its upcoming offensive. So, it's not like the problem is gone for good.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
It's wild that Germany is committing so much to this conflict given the state of their military at the moment.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:22 pm to upgrayedd
I think the one thing we can say about the Germans is that they can ramp up their military very quickly
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:24 pm to TutHillTiger
when has that ever gone wrong
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:26 pm to TutHillTiger
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I think the one thing we can say about the Germans is that they can ramp up their military very quickly
They can't. That's the issue
Posted on 4/15/23 at 6:45 pm to upgrayedd
About 180 Leopard 1 tanks are on their way to Ukraine scrounged from several European nations.
One thing that Ukraine has is a LOT of wheeled vehicles so very speedy and limber when they make a breakthrough at the front. Trenches, especially unmanned ones are really not much of an obstacle. Minefields are the main obstacle. Lot of engineering equipment has flown under the radar as well.
One thing that Ukraine has is a LOT of wheeled vehicles so very speedy and limber when they make a breakthrough at the front. Trenches, especially unmanned ones are really not much of an obstacle. Minefields are the main obstacle. Lot of engineering equipment has flown under the radar as well.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 7:08 pm to upgrayedd
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They can't. That's the issue
Is it can’t or won’t? Honest question. We’ve been at this over a year now. They have continued to fail to meet the NATO 2% target. They seem to be able to make everything but military goods.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 7:24 pm to DabosDynasty
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Is it can’t or won’t? Honest question. We’ve been at this over a year now. They have continued to fail to meet the NATO 2% target. They seem to be able to make everything but military goods.
German chemical manufacturing never recovered after Covid lockdowns. It was a matter of time after the mega plants in TX and LA were first announced over a decade ago. German steel industry was rocked by Chinese imports 20 years ago. Lots of mills closed down, even brand new ones and liquidated.
German manufacturers of equipment have been able to stay afloat with special Climate Change regs passed in the EU which only their companies have patents on. The special designs do ZERO for climate change.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 7:35 pm to CitizenK
All self imposed due to their dumbass social & climate policies. We’ve made some of the same mistakes, but at least we seem to be bringing back some manufacturing and have churned defense production since WWII.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 8:49 pm to DabosDynasty
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All self imposed due to their dumbass social & climate policies. We’ve made some of the same mistakes, but at least we seem to be bringing back some manufacturing and have churned defense production since WWII.
It was only afloat that long due German banking.
Feedstock cost too high. The Climate Change policies were an attempt to hold on to their economic position. Just think why would ConocoPhillips buy a refinery in Germany in 2006 then announce a major expansion to modernize it to US standards then cancel the expansion and shutdown the refinery before the Climate Change regs ever happened. Some of the equipment purchased are now sitting in Louisiana. Weight per hydrocracker reactor is 1000 tons. They were made in Italy and never saw Germany. Sitting for a over a decade.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 12:57 am to StormyMcMan
How ya hanging these days? Leaks not in your favor???? It's a Ponzi scheme to turn USD into Eurodollars.
By the way? Did you have the vaccine flag just prior to the Ukraine flag? Get it? You're the problem. Quit believing!
By the way? Did you have the vaccine flag just prior to the Ukraine flag? Get it? You're the problem. Quit believing!
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 1:11 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 12:59 am to notiger1997
How's the CNN narrative going? Please wake up!
No replies just down voting. Ha! I'll come back in another couple months, We'll talk. Please wake fricking up!!!!!! They don't care about you! If they did, you wouldn't have record inflation and gas prices heading north. It's about protecting their investment.
Hopefully we can come together on a couple of months and make America Great.
No replies just down voting. Ha! I'll come back in another couple months, We'll talk. Please wake fricking up!!!!!! They don't care about you! If they did, you wouldn't have record inflation and gas prices heading north. It's about protecting their investment.
Hopefully we can come together on a couple of months and make America Great.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 1:15 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:00 am to Napoleon
I had to dig and didn't find this after 11 pages. Have you conceded that the U.S. has printed money to get us into a war with Russia? probably not. Keep drinking Bud light.
One good man gets it. We'll talk soon.
One good man gets it. We'll talk soon.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 1:16 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:56 am to upgrayedd
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I think the one thing we can say about the Germans is that they can ramp up their military very quickly They can't. That's the issue
It depends, but that’s neither here nor there.
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