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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:23 pm to OutsideObserver
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:23 pm to OutsideObserver
Not only that, but there are quite a few members of the French government/parliament that are open supporters of Russia.
IMO the only ones in Europe that are willing to fight to defend their freedom are the East Europeans and the Brits.
Macron is a two faced fraud just like that socialist Trudeau in Canada.
IMO the only ones in Europe that are willing to fight to defend their freedom are the East Europeans and the Brits.
Macron is a two faced fraud just like that socialist Trudeau in Canada.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:30 pm to GOP_Tiger
I’ve been quietly very concerned as far as the coming offensive from Russia. The delays of getting equipment to Ukraine is just absolutely disgusting in it’s ineptness. I know Ukraine has the better trained soldiers and have the will to fight but I worry if they will be able to counter attack in the spring after defending the Russian push which is coming first. I hope the Ukrainians aren’t too exhausted both physically and with ammunition from beating iff Russia to try to make their own move. Air defenses must come now to keep Russian attack aircraft on the ground and they may need all the small arms rounds and mortar rounds that they can get their hands on. They might need to expend 100,000+ artillery shells before they can even start their planned offensive. It’s also pathetic that we are handing a handful of western tanks over and acting like it will make a difference. Every large country should be challenged to send a battalion worth of tanks from their sticks. This included France, Italy, Spain and Portugal. Thee should be an Abrams battalion, a Leopard 2A4 battalion, a Leopard 2A6 battalion, a Challenger 2 battalion and a Leclerc battalion. That would be 150 superior western tanks to what Russia has and it wouldn’t hurt any of these countries to give up a 31 of their tanks. The fact that the French haven’t promised one single Leclerc tank is shameful on France’s part. Sorry for the rant it’s just frustrating because everyone could be doing so much more to stop Russia cold in the Donbas but instead they seem content to just send the minimum to get by with.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:34 pm to LSUPilot07
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The fact that the French haven’t promised one single Leclerc tank is shameful on France’s part.
They would have to put a new transmission in them, currently it has only one gear: reverse.
Germany caught hell and rightly so, but the French seem to skate on this issue.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:36 pm to AU86
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IMO the only ones in Europe that are willing to fight to defend their freedom are the East Europeans and the Brits.
East Europeans are the one who have most recently stared into the abyss of Russian domination.
And the Brits simply have a better grasp of right and wrong than just about anyone. Thank god it was them that conquered the world.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:40 pm to OutsideObserver
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Both France and Germany seem to be doing everything right to seriously degraded their position in coming decades when countries like Poland are standing up far more readily, even if they have more reason to due to location.
Poland is becoming the new leader of Europe and I’m here for it. Part of me also think this will create a much larger rift in Europe down the line because I also suspect Poland will be less tolerant of Franco-German pacifism and social liberalism as their standing in the EU and NATO grows.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:45 pm to StormyMcMan
Some months ago Kamil Galeev said if there's a coup it will come from the security services. With most of the army in Ukraine, there's no counterbalancing force if some Rosvgardia general gets ambitious.
Another thing he's said recently, the bellicose rhetoric from the likes of Lavrov and Medvedev is not meant for western consumption, it's aimed at Putin himself. If they destroy their credibility in the west by staking out extreme positions, it means they're no threat to go behind his back and try to make a separate deal. It's a survival mechanism.
Another thing he's said recently, the bellicose rhetoric from the likes of Lavrov and Medvedev is not meant for western consumption, it's aimed at Putin himself. If they destroy their credibility in the west by staking out extreme positions, it means they're no threat to go behind his back and try to make a separate deal. It's a survival mechanism.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:45 pm to ned nederlander
I have said it all along. The West does not want to see a real Ukrainian victory. Biden hasn't even said that the goal is Ukrainian victory. Hodges even stated that about him recently. I am beginning to believe that this is nothing but a proxy war for Washington.
Russian money/bribes have bought off many European people/governments for years. Look at Germany. Buy that cheap gas, be bought off and keep that socialist welfare. They have grown too dependent on American defense.
Russian money/bribes have bought off many European people/governments for years. Look at Germany. Buy that cheap gas, be bought off and keep that socialist welfare. They have grown too dependent on American defense.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:48 pm to AU86
There are legitimate concerns about an imploding Russia destabilizing the world order, but given Russia's actions in the last year, it's a risk worth taking.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:48 pm to AU86
France needs to be called out on the world stage. They have plenty of Leclerc tanks they could send and they send instead their 30-40 year old AMX-10RC vehicles with a 105 mm gun that most likely won’t penetrate a tank’s armor so it’s basically just an infantry support vehicle that can take out Russian APCs but that’s about it.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:51 pm to LSUPilot07
It's shameful the west hasn't gone all in on backing Ukraine. But as inept as the Russian military is and as brittle as Putin's regime is, the lukewarm western support may be enough anyway.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:55 pm to DabosDynasty
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Poland is becoming the new leader of Europe and I’m here for it.
God Bless Poland. They got screwed after WWII and Roosevelt went along with it.
If Poland can keep their current government (Law and Justice Party) and not go back to the days of that EU lackey Donald Tusk they will be fine.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:19 pm to AU86
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God Bless Poland.
I love the Poles. They’re not putting up with anyone’s BS anymore. They remind me of Israeli Jews.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:26 pm to LSUPilot07
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Every large country should be challenged to send a battalion worth of tanks from their sticks. This included France, Italy, Spain and Portugal. Thee should be an Abrams battalion, a Leopard 2A4 battalion, a Leopard 2A6 battalion, a Challenger 2 battalion and a Leclerc battalion. That would be 150 superior western tanks to what Russia has and it wouldn’t hurt any of these countries to give up a 31 of their tanks. The fact that the French haven’t promised one single Leclerc tank is shameful on France’s part. Sorry for the rant it’s just frustrating because everyone could be doing so much more to stop Russia cold in the Donbas but instead they seem content to just send the minimum to get by with.
The EU is 5 times the population and about 20 times the economy of Russia. The inability of the EU to become the arsenal of democracy on its own continent a year into this conflict is indeed frustrating.
The qualitative advantage for the Ukrainians coming out of this winter should be overwhelming to any Russians remaining in Ukraine.
I still contend Biden and the US has played this all very well to date because at a certain point the Europeans need to lead here. We’ve led the European horses to water and all they’ve done is set up a committee to discuss from which size straw to drink.
Except for the Polish horse. That fella is rock hard and ready to frick.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:31 pm to DabosDynasty
Seems like my previous post was a partial false alarm:
I do find it interesting we now see reporting of potential “spy balloons” being used in Ukraine now after the last two weeks here.
![](https://i.ibb.co/02Ggvbz/22-CB7-AB4-AC75-46-FC-98-FD-B2-F5-EF4854-F5.jpg)
I do find it interesting we now see reporting of potential “spy balloons” being used in Ukraine now after the last two weeks here.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:46 pm to sta4ever
The Polish Army wants nothing more than to kill Vatniks.
The Polish Army is incredibly well trained, led, and motivated.
The Polish Army is incredibly well trained, led, and motivated.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:49 pm to StormyMcMan
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A potential concern in my mind is what happens if Russia is destabilized. We should be very concerned about an aggressive Russia invading their neighbors. But if they border a lot of less than stable countries that might degrade if Russia devolved
Valid concern.
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I think it's a realistic chance of it happening, but I think a much more likely outcome is just a shift of management with another dictator coming into power, but Russia itself staying stable.
My thoughts as well.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:51 pm to AU86
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I am beginning to believe that this is nothing but a proxy war for Washington.
That’s all it ever was to most of the politicians in DC, at the expense of the Ukrainian people.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:52 pm to TBoy
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Potentially 3.5 billion people will hear the speech, rumored to touch on Joe and Hunter's corrupt activities, NATO malice, evidence of bioweapons research, possibly even a clandestine Pentagon nuclear weapons program in Ukraine.
We've already witnessed just how far the U.S. is willing to go with its anti-Russia, anti-EU agenda, when it brazenly sabotaged a $12bn joint Russian-German pipeline, so a clandestine Pentagon nuke program is within the realm of possibility.
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Sounds like the target audience is the American right wing. I wonder when (if ever) the right wing will perceive that it is being used by Russia to aid Russia's empire building aspirations.
More like the MAGANS.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:54 pm to DabosDynasty
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Poland is becoming the new leader of Europe and I’m here for it.
Like I said last week, the Poles have the strongest and best trained army on mainland Europe.
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