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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by UASports23
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:16 pm to
[CNN] 4,000 US Army troops deployed in Europe have tour of duty extended
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More than 4,000 US Army troops who were deployed to Europe on a temporary basis will now have their tour of duty extended -- likely for several weeks -- as part of the US effort to reassure eastern European allies during the current crisis in Ukraine.

The 1st Armored Brigade Combat team of the 1st Infantry Division had been scheduled to return to the US next month after a nine-month tour in Europe. But the team will now stay and continue training and deterrence missions with nations that could include Poland, Romania and the Baltics.

"I don't want to speculate on a timeline, but be assured it will only be for as long as they are needed," John Tomassi, a spokesman for the Army in Europe, told CNN in an email.

In addition to the brigade, there are additional support troops that will be extended. For several years, the army has regularly rotated combat brigades, along with the armored vehicles in and out of Europe, to help maintain a US military presence.

"The deployment of ready, combat-credible US forces to Europe in support US Army Europe and Africa is evidence of the strong and unremitting US commitment to NATO and Europe," Tomassi said in a statement confirming the details.
"As we continually assess changes in the strategic and operational environment, select units have been extended to provide the forces needed to augment our NATO allies and partners. The units that have been extended provide unique skills and reinforce our role of supporting our NATO allies and partners capable, ready and resilient forces. While we understand the toll this extension takes on not only our soldiers, but also their families, we as a nation must remain committed to the security of Europe. Our presence reinforces our ironclad commitment to NATO, assures our allies and deters future aggression."
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Anyone slightly left of Pol Pot is a rabid right winger in his eyes.


Explain in detail with links
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:19 pm to
Whoever it is, I much prefer that to the alternative
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:20 pm to
It's on now. You can hear constant explosions in the background audio of the Kiev live cam
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:20 pm to
Interesting:
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In November I wrote about a space experiment in Moscow that places 6 Russians and Americans in a sealed capsule for 8 months. Crazy to think they’re now stuck inside with little to no understanding of the Cold War-esque crisis unfolding outside their walls
Foreign Policy News
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On Nov. 4, Kowalski will join one other American, three Russians, and an Emirati inside the confined facility in a Soviet-era building on the outskirts of Moscow that’s meant to mimic as much as possible the conditions on long space journeys, including both the physiological and the psychological challenges. A barrage of daily tests will record the changes the aspiring astronauts undergo and relay the data to a team of researchers at Moscow’s Institute of Biomedical Problems, which has teamed up with NASA to launch the Scientific International Research in Unique Terrestrial Station, or SIRIUS.

The project is meant to gather data on how people cope physically and mentally with long-term confinement, a necessary prelude to longer space journeys to the moon or even Mars; the data will be made available to various space agencies. The international component of the experiment is important, because scientists hope that international crews working together on land could smooth the path to eventual joint exploration of Mars.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177665 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:20 pm to
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Kyiv is surrounded by Russian troops

But the internet told us Ukraine was winning
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64519 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Denmark has agreed to send 2700 anti tank missiles. This thing is going south real fast if the fighting doesn't stop tomorrow.


Perhaps this is an effort to ratchet up the pressure on Russia to be more malleable in negotiations tomorrow

Or maybe not, what do I know
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:23 pm to
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But the internet told us Ukraine was winning


It's a little early to say who is "winning" or "losing".

I just don't see how this benefits Russia long term even if they "win". Is Putin really willing to make Russia a third world country over this?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Not the virus itself, but the extreme intra-national division to the reactions to governments’ mandates/executive orders/authoritarian power grabs the past 2 years. The BLM protests and the rising of groups to combat them. The West seems weak as its countries appear more divided than many of us remember.


I have been thinking about the timing vis a vis COVID as well and I think his calculus was all fricked up.

As to the division, it was a poor choice. The ruling class on both sides are old enough to remember living with the Soviet Union and this was his folly, it will tend to coalesce rather than further divide. Outside of a few knotheads like LeadNugget who are too young to remember and cheer a Putin victory to own the "globalists" most people are going to pick Ukraine over Russia and Putin.

Second, if he was going to use COVID as cover like he did with the Middle East conflicts in 2008 for his moves into Georgia he should have done it late in the summer of 2020. If he had there would have been the same level of attention and action as in 2008. Too much other shite to worry about when the shite potentially was a real problem.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:25 pm to
I think COVID also hit Russia a bit harder than was let on outside of it.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:28 pm to
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space experiment in Moscow that places 6 Russians and Americans in a sealed capsule for 8 months.


Sex capsule?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177665 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:28 pm to
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It's a little early to say who is "winning" or "losing".

It wasn’t too early for the internet to say Ukraine is winning after Russia didn’t overtake them in 48 hours.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 5:29 pm
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:29 pm to
If true, could ramp up the tension in the talks

Also interesting
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:29 pm to
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It wasn’t too early for the internet to say Ukraine is winning after Russia didn’t overtake them in 48 hours.


Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet .
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8689 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:32 pm to
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There is no justification for invading a sovereign nation. Putin’s feelings are hurt and his country has been outmaneuvered if his own region for 30 years. Take your L and move forward rather than murder women and children in a toddler rage.


A man Like Putin can’t just take an L and move on, he’s said many times what he feels when it comes to Russia or the former USSR and what he feels won’t stop with Ukraine, unless the world truly goes to shite and then no one wins in the end.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103164 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:34 pm to
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Could you imagine destruction of a three mile long convoy? Yup.


What’s that pic from? Looks like 1980s early 90s based on the vehicles
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:34 pm to
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It's a little early to say who is "winning" or "losing".



When another country is in your country, you are losing
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
14230 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:36 pm to
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What’s that pic from?
Highway of Death in Kuwait and Iraq
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103164 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:36 pm to
I’m far right and I’m 100% pulling for Ukraine
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105473 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:38 pm to
The tactically smart thing would be to let them operate from Polish airfields but escalation wise that may be a bridge too far.
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