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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Cobra Tate
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Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:43 am to
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Well lets see, Trump said Putin was a genius for annexing parts of a sovereign country.
Up until the invasion Trump loved discussing how close he and Putin were, big a-hole buddies.


A lot of substance to unpack in this post


I can see how the division here would help Russia like the other poster pointed out
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:49 am to
Go back over the last 9 months of Kremlin controlled Russian News One. Trump is mentioned fairly often by the Russkies
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:51 am to
Registered two days ago.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:14 am to
They have makeshift repair facilities set up in Ukraine for certain repairs, mostly the old Soviet systems that Ukrainian mechanics already know how to work on but they have to move locations every so often as to not be targeted by the Russians. A warehouse with 10-12 tanks or APCs in for repair is a prime target because not only do they destroy those machines but they most likely kill the valuable maintenance crews working on them too. Changing a howitzer barrel is not as simple as it might seem at first thought. Our M109 Paladin SPGs take about 40 hours to replace their barrels so it’s not something that is a field repair. The biggest pain in the arse is having to load them up on truck or rail and transport then hundreds of miles from the front. I feel for those guys on the line though. That’s some WW1 trench warfare except colder. Impossible to keep dry in that shite.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:23 am to
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Why would Russia want Trump in over the current admin

A united congress overwhelmingly passed a veto proof sanctions package against Russia that included language forbidding the executive from dissolving any of the provisions. Trump was openly against sanctioning Russia and called the package a disaster.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:26 am to
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All the while giving Ukraine javelins and other high tech russian killing machines. If Trump and Putin were such good buddies then why did Putin wait until Biiden was in office to invade? I mean clearly hid good buddy Trump would have turned a blind eye if not outright supported the russian invasion of that evil nazi Ukrainian regeime right?

Trump didn't give javelins to Ukraine. He sold Ukraine javelins. He'd sell his left nut if the profit was nice.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:32 am to
The biggest problem is that Ukraine is using such an incredible variety of weapons now. Simple repairs are one thing, but it's just impossible to train enough Ukrainians to do complex repairs for such a variety of equipment -- not to mention the difficulty of stocking all the necessary parts, or the risk of Russia using missile strikes against repair yards. And, even if Ukraine could establish such repair yards, the front lines are so long that a repair center in Kharkiv still wouldn't be convenient for an SPG that breaks down south of Zaporizhzhia.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:34 am to
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Trump didn't give javelins to Ukraine. He sold Ukraine javelins. He'd sell his left nut if the profit was nice.


So selling weapoons to Ukraine makes Trump a Putin supporter?
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3010 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:36 am to
People in this thread are reluctant to acknowledge Obama's CIA precipitated the 2014 war with color revolution shite.

Egypt (failed)
Syria (failed)
Libya (Kadafi killed, failed to stabilized the country, failed)
Iran (failed)
UKRAINE (SUCCESS in soft coup and installing western puppets, but created war there since 2014.)

The big differences Obama's administration was scared to send in troops into Ukraine and Iran.

They led people to revolution snd then let them die.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:50 am to
Honestly not sure why I am wasting time on this every bit and more has been chronicled in the thread already.

I grabbed about 20% of what I have posted re the Rs and Trump.

Some screen grabs







Some Twitter and YT links to video:

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Some quotes I had from various clips:

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Dmitry Abzalov, Director of the Center for Strategic Communications, noted: “Of course we depend on the U.S. elections. Anyone who is doubting that should take a look at today’s dominating news topics. Every field commander is reporting that they’re plugged into American elections, planning to watch them at night. Why would they need to watch if everything was decided over here?”


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Solovyov described a video clip of Trump’s diatribe against President Joe Biden as the opinion of a “smart person who openly says everything that many Americans are thinking.”


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Sidorov: “You’ve just shown Trump. Of course, I am a big aficionado of this former president. I even love his colors, the colors of the Republican party.”


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Luzyanin: “After the midterm elections, we’ll see a glass jar full of poisonous American spiders, tearing each other up. Go ahead and eat one another! It will be a frightening political process... It may also lead to tactical or strategic changes in their foreign policy... Get lots of popcorn and let’s watch.”


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Skabeeva: “There aren’t many chances that the magnitude of the funding will change, but an everyday Russian keeps on hoping and believing. They’ve never followed the midterm elections so closely... We trust and believe in the Republicans. Do we even have any other allies?”


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Skabeeva: “How are our guys in America?”
Kornilov: “Our Republicans.”


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Popov “Republican triumph or the tsunami did not materialize... Trump is already calling on Americans to protest ballot stuffing and not allowing his opponents to disrupt the elections.”


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Skabeeva “Come out, Americans! You are being lied to!” Abzalov "It will be fun when the Republicans impeach President Joe Biden" Skabeeva “They will impeach but won’t be able to overthrow him. We’ve seen how it went down with our friend, our comrade Donald—and it happened more than once.”


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Skabeeva: “We keep worrying about our guys, their results should have been better than this... Apparently, there will be no landslide victory for Republicans in Congress... Still, Donald Trump is planning to celebrate—it isn’t exactly clear what is there to celebrate.”


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Skabeeva: “Things are difficult. Nonetheless, we have to win on our own—it’s official. Republicans can hardly help us to retain the Kherson region or the city of Kherson.”


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Solovyov opines that the reason the withdrawal from Kherson was announced the day after the midterms was not to hep the Ds “[The withdrawal] was announced after Nov. 8, on Nov. 9, so it wouldn’t influence the U.S. elections.”




Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:50 am to
Really interesting info from @DefMon3 on twitter. He's been paying for high-level satellite imagery and analyzing it.

LINK

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Russian forces continue to build defensive lines around Svatove. I have been able to identify over 50km of defensive lines north and south of Svatove and they are still expanding it.


He has lots of good photos and maps in the thread. As he points out, these defenses are not major obstacles in themselves, but they aid the Russian defense by slowing down any Ukrainian attack and forcing attacking forces into what could become a killing zone.

The ground will likely not freeze there for several more weeks, so Russia is trying to prepare as well as they can for the inevitable Ukrainian offensive.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:54 am to
I’m giving updoodle
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:54 am to
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He's been paying for high-level satellite imagery and analyzing it.


There is a YT channel that does the same thing, one video he bought the images to determine how many tanks Russia had pulled out of their storage sites and how many were left.

His channel:

Suchomimus on YT
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32176 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 11:09 am to
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A Ukrainian official confirmed that Ukrainian forces killed Iranian advisors in Russian-occupied Crimea in October and stressed that Ukraine would target any Iranian military presence on Ukrainian territory.


Got ‘em!
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 11:10 am to
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So selling weapoons to Ukraine makes Trump a Putin supporter?

I didn't assign that action to your question.

That post was intended to convey that selling weapons to Ukraine didn't necessarily make him a supporter of Ukraine.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 11:35 am to
Okay. It certainly doesn’t make him a Putin supporter though. And I haven’t done the research but I would guess that the Trump administration sold or contributed more military equipment to Ukraine than any other prior administration and more than any other European country, probably combined.

The idea that Trump was somehow Putin’s pal or a supporter of Russia is preposterous and ridiculous. Simply a retarded notion
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:02 pm to
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The idea that Trump was somehow Putin’s pal or a supporter of Russia is preposterous and ridiculous. Simply a retarded notion




Again, tell that to Trump, because he is the one that says that.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:02 pm to
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Okay. It certainly doesn’t make him a Putin supporter though.


The main thrust since the meme was posted is not that Trump IS a Putin/Russia supporter (that is irrelevant unless one is conflating) it is that Putin/Russia PERCEIVES Trump as an ally. They saw his actions and deeds as support whether it was meant to be or not. For example, they love the fact he is divisive, something I don't think is debatable, he wasn't divisive to benefit Russia but they see it as furthering their agenda.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Putin/Russia PERCEIVES Trump as an ally


Of course they do. And why wouldnt they? Trump wants to be Putin so bad he cant stand it. Whats really weird is when Trump waxes about how him and Vlad like to get peed on together they are so close and Vlad just lets him run on at the mouth.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Of course they do. And why wouldnt they? Trump wants to be Putin so bad he cant stand it. Whats really weird is when Trump waxes about how him and Vlad like to get peed on together they are so close and Vlad just lets him run on at the mouth.


Wut is this soy flavored post.
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