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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:18 pm to
Well said!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8619 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:19 pm to
Fully agree about the Bradley. For our forces they are a complete no go and obsolete. But compared with some of the shite Ukraine has had to keep running to fight this war they would be useful just for the fact that they can carry troops to the front while having enough armor to give them protection from small arms fire and have a chain gun or anti tank system for some sort of fire support. Not at all the most ideal piece of machinery just like the M113 is obsolete for our forces also but they could at least serve a purpose in Ukraine and we could write them off our books. They have made it clear they need armored vehicles any way they can get them. We don’t need them so it just makes sense to me. If they get blown to shite or break down it’s not like you’re losing a HIMARS or M109. I’m glad they are figuring out a way to get them 90 upgraded T-72s to them though. They already know these systems and can hit the ground running with them. My big question is where are artillery shells going to be coming from if this drags out several more months? South Korea most likely has the largest stockpile of 155 mm right now along with the United States but we are burning through our reserves at an unsustainable pace.
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:28 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 pm to
ISW Update

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The Russian military is likely trying to use mobilized personnel to restart the Donetsk offensive but will likely still fail to achieve operationally significant gains


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Russian forces are setting conditions for a controlled withdrawal in northwestern Kherson Oblast, likely to avoid a disorderly rout from the right (west) bank of the Dnipro River


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Russian President Vladimir Putin is likely setting conditions to continue covert mobilization, which suggests that partial mobilization did not generate sufficient forces for Putin’s maximalist goals in Ukraine despite Putin’s claims to the contrary


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Russian opposition and online outlets have reported that Russian authorities and businesses are preparing for a second mobilization wave by modernizing military recruitment centers and preparing lists of eligible men.


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Russia’s costly force generation efforts will continue to weigh on the Russian economy and could ignite social tensions if the Kremlin does not fulfill its financial obligations to the participants of the “special military operation


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Iran is likely already exploiting Russian reliance on Iranian-made weapons systems to request Russian assistance with its nuclear program


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Ukrainian Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) representative Andriy Yusov stated on November 4 that GUR has not received information confirming that Iranian missile systems have arrived in Russia despite intelligence that confirms the contract for the transfer of those systems


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Russian forces may be deploying extreme measures against deserting personnel in an attempt to respond to severe morale issues


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Key Takeaways

The Russian military is likely trying to use mobilized personnel to restart its Donetsk offensive but will likely fail to achieve operationally significant gains.

Russian forces are setting conditions for an orderly withdrawal from the west bank of the Dnipro River to avoid a rout in Kherson Oblast.

President Vladimir Putin is likely setting conditions to continue mobilization covertly despite claims that partial mobilization produced sufficient forces.

Russia’s costly force generation measures will likely continue to weigh on the Russian economy and generate social tensions.

Iran is likely exploiting Russian reliance on Iranian-made weapon systems to request Russian assistance with its nuclear program.

Russian forces may be deploying extreme measures against deserting personnel in an attempt to respond to severe morale issues.

Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the direction of Kreminna and Svatove.

Russian forces continued to prepare existing and new defensive lines in Kherson Oblast.

Russian forces continued to conduct offensive operations around Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City.

Russian forces continued forced evacuation measures in Kherson Oblast.
Russian and occupation officials continued to set measures for the forced deportation of Ukrainian children to the Russian Federation.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:07 am to
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It’s odd. The poli board, which actually represents or at least mirrors a large contingent of Americans and people around the world,
Wrong

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has a rightful suspicion of the msm.
. Ya think

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But bc of the perceived or real lean to the left,
. perceived? really?

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EVERYTHING said or written which does not conform to their narrative is false
WRONG


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Every journalist, politician, every general, every Republican l, every person who does not say what they want to hear is an idiot or corrupt


WRONG again

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Every person who presents a narrative which correlates with their own is right. There is no “reasonable minds can differ”. It is good vs evil. God vs the Devil! Christian vs the pedophile.


Now you are just grasping for straws and the fricking idiot who thinks your post below your post if a bitch for agreeing.

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As a result charlatans who want to make a quick buck (I’m talking to you Q
Q... The Q thread was nowhere near as long is this circle jerk warhawking. Similar to THIS thread it was the same dipshits that posted over and over. FTR I think Q and you lame fricks are equally full of shite.

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Tuck,
. Sorry Tucker makes you cry. Dude is right 95% of the time. Way more accurate than all of the other hacks in the same time slot on your fav propaganda networks.

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Alex Jones
. Again, a certifiable nut case. Never supported and those that did a large majority have backed away because he is simply an actor. I can't stand the dude so yes we can be bi-partisan on him & Q.

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who feed them bullshite, they eat it up.
. Another fricking lie

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Putin is the antithesis of freedom, Christianity, libertarianism and capitalism yet they believe otherwise
. Have you lost your fricking mind? There is a handful of dumbasses that support him on the board and I think the majority of them are trolling stupid fricks like you. Putin is a POS. We can be bi-partisan on that

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yet they believe otherwise not because of his actions but because he tells them what they want to hear.
. Dude, I rarely stop by to read this train wreck. I have not read anything Putin has said in probably two months. - again another fricking lie

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WEF, globalism, freedom, Christianity… they support.
yet more lies; let me break it down:

WEF - against
Globalism - against
Freedom - for
Christianity - for


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So he is here to free the world of “globalism” (whatever the hell that is.. it used to be statism. It changes every few years) and secret biological labs, and trannies/groomers and devil worshippers.
. Dude you honestly need help if you believe the shite you are typing.

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It’s very distressing.
Get a tampon you pussy

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trying to participate in western capitalism
wut?? You worship corporatism, not capitalism

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and democracy yet WE are the “warmongers”
You are warmongers - I didn't get a vote on whether to send my tax dollars to an eastern European country versus keeping the money back home and either saving it or using it for infrastructure. If you want to send money to support THEIR war set up a GoFund ME for Ukraine cocksucker, using my money is bullshite.

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The invaders are the ones seeking peace!
. I honestly, have no idea what you mean by this. I don't follow the war so I will take you at your word on this because the burden of truth would be on me.

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I’m actually sad yet thankful
. Nice concern troll to polish off this turd of a post. Go back to your FB Boomer.

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I’m in my 60s and won’t live to see what ultimately becomes of this.


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:10 am to
You sho is mad
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:16 am to
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You sho is mad


I was doing fine until I finished reading his post and realized he was a boomer

No offense unless you are a boomer as well.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:56 am to
Multiple Intercepts are talking about 35-38 RU in one incident and 12-15 in another being mowed down by GRU/Chechen blocking units trying to flee combat zone. Looking forward to explanation/notes
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98260 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:25 am to
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many of whom are dying, no food


Are the Russians running out of food again?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:42 am to
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The Q thread was nowhere near as long is this circle jerk warhawking.


Oh really?

It had over three times the number of pages but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

BTW "war-hawking circle jerk" is a better use of the language or you could have labeled posters here as circle-jerking warhawks.
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:01 am to


bless your heart
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150152 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:01 am to
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The Q thread was nowhere near as long is this circle jerk warhawking
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahha
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
98260 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:04 am to
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Highthoughts


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Member since Sep 2022
56 posts


Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:06 am to
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SDVTiger


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Number of posts: 63076


Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5657 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:13 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 5 November 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russia is probably struggling to provide military training for its current mobilisation drive and its annual autumn conscription intake. The Russian Armed Forces were already stretched providing training for the approximate 300,000 troops required for its 'partial mobilisation, announced on 21 September 2022. These issues will be compounded by the additional regular autumn annual conscription cycle, announced on 30 September 2022 and starting 01 November 2022, which is usually expected to bring in an additional 120,000 personnel.

Newly mobilised conscripts likely have minimal training or no training at all. Experienced officers and trainers have been deployed to fight in Ukraine and some have likely been killed in the conflict.

Russian forces are conducting training in Belarus due to a shortage of training staff, munitions and facilities in Russia. Deploying forces with little or no training provides little additional offensive combat capability.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:17 am to
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hahahahahahahhahahahahahahha


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98260 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:17 am to
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Russia is probably struggling


Why do these Brit reports you post daily always start with this?

Posted by Palantir
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Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:29 am to
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NPComb
woo boy, what a melt
Posted by DJFord
Arabi
Member since Oct 2022
458 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:33 am to
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quote:Russia is probably struggling

Why do these Brit reports you post daily always start with this?


The writer is probably struggling with finding ways to present his and other experts’ assumptions based on the facts presented and their knowledge and experience with militaries and diplomats in general and including Russia and its military in general without stating for certain bc they are not at every particular area or situation.

See what I did there? I do not know for certain but given the context and my appreciation of what is happening from my reading of the situation and seeing firsthand videos of the war, I can assume more probable than not ie “probably” & “likely” and because of my extensive studying of the conflict and reporting of same that I am correct.

This as opposed to some people who have a preconceived narrative of what is happening and search the bowels of YouTube and the poli board to confirm their bias or those writers who do the same.

Hope this helps!
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 7:36 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98260 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:36 am to
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The writer is probably struggling with finding ways to present his and other experts’ assumptions based on the facts presented


Or they are just making shite up

The ISW is the same
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63805 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:39 am to
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my extensive studying of the conflict


The OT has so many international relations experts.
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