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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:59 am to
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:59 am to
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I click on the link and get a rusarmy.com site that wants me to enter personal information. If I enter the personal information, have I just agreed to a contract to fight for Russia? Will they come to my house and take me to the front?

Nice try, tovarish.

I agree, I didn’t think about registration, there, in my opinion, such protection from bots. I will post it later on your hosting

And by the way, I posted my data there !!!!
It's good that you warned me, went to collect a suitcase and documents for immigration
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:01 am to
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Go away Russian bot

What for? I like you very much, interesting conversationalist
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:02 am to
Lots of unfriendly to Russians in the entire south. Resistance can provide targeting info. Plus satellite can look through clouds in today's world, even commercial satellites.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:06 am to
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Lots of unfriendly to Russians in the entire south. Resistance can provide targeting info. Plus satellite can look through clouds in today's world, even commercial satellites.


Actually anything laser guided will have much difficulty and its not the actual cloud cover that hinders radar as it is moisture content scattering said radar.

There is more advance radar technology the US specifically has, but it is unknown if we would even share this...
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30448 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:07 am to
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And you want to know the real state of affairs?
Well then you are doing the right thing. Continue further in the same spirit. Why should I then post a photo somewhere if you are too lazy to even follow the link?


That is not how it works here. You have to support your own proffers. If you are appealing to a "higher authority" you must provide a clean link, not one that requires signing up for a site unknown to us. Screenshots are welcome but need to include a link for serious consideration. It is not people's job to make your case for you.

If you are relying on personal information or experience then you have to stick around and develop a reputation for veracity and not mendacity. That takes more time and effort than you are likely to be willing to put in.
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:08 am to
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Can you translate this for us?

Oh yeah. No no problem.
It is not clear who is lying there and tells in Russian that the Ukrainians shoot them / him with everything that is possible, even from a tank.
But I will assume that you do not want to go to "Russian resources" where they investigated where it was filmed, by which participant, etc. It is the Ukrainian press that entertains its viewers.
If you want, I can put such videos where Ukrainians "shoot" the Russian army for several hours of viewing?
It's like watching white helmets in Syria about the poisoning of civilians, and then seeing the stories of these "poisoned" people, where they tell the camera how they were filmed. These are the same eggs, only the view from the other side
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:12 am to
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1. Russia still holds fire superiority in two main areas of combat. Armor and Artillery superiority over Ukraine.



Hate to burst your bubble but Russia may out number Ukraine in artillery, but thanks to 6 weeks of HIMARs strikes, Hrim2/Thunder2 missiles, and Ukrainian spetznaz raids they cannot get ammunition for their artillery to the front. Most of the ammunition dumps within 100 km of Kherson have been destroyed by HIMARs. Ukrainian spetznaz have disabled the tracks leading from Crimea to Kherson so Russia whose logistical system is rail based has to transport all of its war materials by trucks (which they do not have enough of) 400 km to reach the west bank of the Dnieper. Once they reach the Dnieper they cannot cross because all of the permanent bridges are too badly damaged. Ukraine destroyed their 2 of their 3 pontoon bridges yesterday and there are videos showing that the last bridge this morning was hit and one of the 2 ferries across the Dnieper was also sunk this morning. Russia is down to one barge to ferry stuff across the river. I think that you would agree that it does not matter how many pieces of armor or artillery you have if there is very limited fuel and/or ammo for them in the combat zone.

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2. Ukraine has more infantrymen in the area, you can only do so much without support from Artillery and Armor.


Drone directed artillery and soldiers with ATGMs can destroy a lot of tanks in a hurry

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2. Ukraine has more infantrymen in the area, you can only do so much without support from Artillery and Armor.


Hate to burst your bubble again, but it appears that open source intel says you are wrong. Ukraine has just as much armor and artillery on the west bank of the Dnieper as Russia does. Plus the Ukrainians were trained by the British and NATO who taught the Ukrainians the value combined arms. While Russia still hasn't figured out that infantry troops can be used to protect their tanks from ATGMS.

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3. Ukraine has not taken back Kherson


The actual counter attack has only been going on for 36 hours. The previous 2 months have been build up and prep work. You know like the thing that the USA and its allies did for months prior to launching the ground war in the Gulf War or invading Iraq in 2003.

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Nice playing with you. please don't discuss military operations with me if you aren't prior service.


What that leaves me out. I'm just a freshly minted O-3 medical officer in the Army Reserves that who just got back from Ukraine a few weeks ago after spending time in Ukraine to get experience treating soldiers on the front lines. I guess my own first hand experience and the many hours I spent talking with soldiers and airmen and civilians in Ukraine about the war in Ukraine does not matter since I did not serves in Afghanistan or Iraq where the USA did not fight the same kind of war as the war that is currently going on in Ukraine.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:15 am to
By the way listening to Ben Shapiro’s podcast right now, and even as hawkish as he is that he is now agreeing with me that this is all going to collapse come winter.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:19 am to
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The Ukes are doing well, but they have lots help with their planning, lots of help.

The battlefield prep for Kherson really had an American feel


Which is another example of them learning from history. They studied what happened when in the first year of WW2 when the USA did not ask for help from the British and Canadian who had been fighting the U-boats for 2.5 years and lost a lot of ships and men as a result. The Ukrainians knew that they had not pulled off a major offensive against a dug in enemy since they were part of the Soviet Union and they were storming Berlin. So they opened a history book to saw how the USA had pulled off two big offensives in Iraq in recent history and since there are a lot of advisors in western Ukraine they asked some of them to come to Kyiv and tutor them on how to do it right.
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:28 am to
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This is why I am trying to understand Ruff's position. He states "can post many sources about destroyed HIMARS...There's a lot more out there, but I don't think it'll be good here."

But then doesn't that suggest that Russia is too incompetent to make gains with an inferior opponent with no western weapons?



Here is your photo hosting imgbb
And a direct link to it


LINK
LINK

The enemy has Western weapons.
And Ruff has repeatedly written that the task of the Russian Federation is not to attack quickly, but to grind the Armed Forces of Ukraine like nuts or like coffee. And only then clean everything else from the Nazis.
So far everything is going according to plan.
And yet the Russian Federation does not have a numerical superiority there. But don't believe me anyway
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:33 am to
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Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:34 am to
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And my wife wonders why I tend to believe in solipsism.

Dude, I like your nickname on the forum.
I got bored at home, went to exchange a few words, and it turns out you predicted me. ...
I am creating my own forum in Russia, come in if anything. Especially for you I will put a translator into English.
Just come without a wife
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:37 am to
This is a real issue for the US. I have posted several times in this thread about the US's inability to replenish its ammunition stocks quickly.

Can we replenish the stocks...absolutely, but not quickly. We do not have the industrial base we used to have, and the complexity of modern weapon systems means you have to have specialized manufacturing to produce them. As an example, there is only one factory in the US that can produce M1 Tanks. To start up a new tank factory would take several years.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:38 am to
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So far everything is going according to plan


So you think this invasion has been a 100% success for Russia so far? or are you referring to the past 30-34 days?
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:39 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:38 am to
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By the way listening to Ben Shapiro’s podcast right now, and even as hawkish as he is that he is now agreeing with me that this is all going to collapse come winter.


If he is using the term winter in general terms then I tend to agree, but it is not going to collapse because Ukraine has capitulated. If (big if) Ukraine's southern offensive (fwiw southern Ukraine and Crimea are close enough to the Black Sea that they are not affected by the Rasputitsia or winter weather like norther Ukraine is) advances at about the same rate as the Kiev and Kharkiv counter-offensives did then Ukraine is going to have retaken Kherson and will be pushing towards Crimes if not already in Crimea by January. Once Ukraine has secured the western bank of the Dnieper it can shift its forces to the eastern bank using the intact rail and road bridges in Zaphorzhzhia and Dnipro. If the Ukrainians break through the Russian lines in Zaphorzhzhia oblast there are no natural obstacle for the Russians to use for defense until they fall all the way back into central Crimea. At that point the Russians will not be able to hide it from their population. Did you ever stop and ask yourself why Putin is not trying to expand the Russian army until January? Those troops will not be used to expand Russia's control over Ukrainian territory. Those troops will be used to help keep Putin in power and to reinforce the Russian defenses in the mountains of central and southern Crimea which surround the two major cities of Crimea Simferpol and Sebastopol.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:44 am to
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By the way listening to Ben Shapiro’s podcast right now, and even as hawkish as he is that he is now agreeing with me that this is all going to collapse come winter.


Do you ever listen to anyone remotely knowledgeable about anything, or is it the same ‘culture war’ sources for everything?
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:46 am to
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Ben Shapiro


I don't listen to the guy, but I thought this was a weird source of information regarding the war. He doesn't seem to have much history for that kind of thing.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:51 am to
You have to use the img tags in order for the photos to appear.

Here are the photos ruff fish has been trying to show us.



Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:53 am to
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No Ukraine has been preparing and laying the ground work for the counter-attack in the south for about 2 months now. OF course you are a Russian so I realize that you might not understand the value of that because Russia has not studied any war that did involve it's armies winning bec.....

Something painfully familiar words and arguments.
Let me also omit other hackneyed arguments that the only real US war is not with the banana republics, but Vietnam, where for the first time someone of equal strength fought against her, well, or capable of hitting back and gave.

Once again, don't get mad at my bad English. Well, Russia does not need to bomb the whole country as in the United States in Iraq and have permanent chaos for decades.
It is important for Russia to eliminate the source of what the US has nurtured there. This is nationalism. And he is in the heads and leaders of those who seized power. The task given to the Russian generals is the destruction of the army and power units of the radicals. For this, it is not necessary to turn Kyiv into a quarry. It is not in Russia that waves of mobilization are going on and conscripts are caught on the street, but in Ukraine. The entire active and radical part of the APU is methodically ground into powder.
By the way, if you mentioned Iraq, then look how many years have passed since your bombings and what happened there just yesterday. Isn't that where the US embassy was evacuated by helicopter?
You see, we don’t need such a mess in Ukraine, so we go our own way.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:56 am to
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If he is using the term winter in general terms then I tend to agree, but it is not going to collapse because Ukraine has capitulated. If (big if) Ukraine's southern offensive (fwiw southern Ukraine and Crimea are close enough to the Black Sea that they are not affected by the Rasputitsia or winter weather like norther Ukraine is) advances at about the same rate as the Kiev and Kharkiv counter-offensives did then Ukraine is going to have retaken Kherson and will be pushing towards Crimes if not already in Crimea by January. Once Ukraine has secured the western bank of the Dnieper it can shift its forces to the eastern bank using the intact rail and road bridges in Zaphorzhzhia and Dnipro. If the Ukrainians break through the Russian lines in Zaphorzhzhia oblast there are no natural obstacle for the Russians to use for defense until they fall all the way back into central Crimea. At that point the Russians will not be able to hide it from their population. Did you ever stop and ask yourself why Putin is not trying to expand the Russian army until January? Those troops will not be used to expand Russia's control over Ukrainian territory. Those troops will be used to help keep Putin in power and to reinforce the Russian defenses in the mountains of central and southern Crimea which surround the two major cities of Crimea Simferpol and Sebastopol.


You’re completely missing our point. Obviously Ukraine is going to fight on since it’s their home. It’s Western Europe that is going to collapse and aren’t going to put up with this for much longer. If you haven’t noticed, I’ve been far more focused on what’s going on in Western Europe recently than what’s directly going on in Ukraine (outside of us sending them blank checks). It’s about to get really bad there relative to their modern comforts.
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