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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13165 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:12 am to
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This false line again. Do they teach it in 12 step or something?


Poliboard dogma. The conspiracy types really have formed a cult. And then they get outside of their safe zone and start calling everyone else Sheeple.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11915 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:13 am to
This video is interesting. The Russians claimed an initial explosion detonated flammables, but there are two simultaneous explosions here (with smoke already present from previous fires).

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Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:13 am to
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The whole corruption line is one of the stupidest excuses for invading Ukraine there is.


It is a description, not an excuse for invasion.

Learn to read.

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Ukraine couldn't hold a candle to Russia when it comes to corruption.


This is dumb. Both are corrupt cesspools.

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Corruption has been Russia's political and economic foundation for over a century.


This is true. Ukraine followed in Russia’s footsteps.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:14 am to
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Overthrow implies it was a legitimate state of affairs over there under Yanukovych


Ahh..gotcha. So you acknowledge our involvement, but just think it was an illegitimate government that needed to be overthrown.



Good to see you have been going to "12 step" too there Jethro.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:15 am to
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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:16 am to
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This video is interesting.


Secondary explosions? but almost simultaneous.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:16 am to
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Poliboard dogma.


"Everything I hate is racist or comes from the poliboard." Rant progressives in a nutshell.

its bizarre how terrified you people are of straying over there.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:18 am to
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This is a part of the Russian propaganda you guys don’t get. You’re giving excuses for Russia’s invasion, which is just asinine.


Excuses...no.

Their justification- yes.

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They’re the ones that invaded Ukraine in 2014 and started this Civil War.


To protect ethnic Russians.

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They are totally to blame for this.


I disagree.

Putin is a tyrannical shitbag that can’t be trusted.

Ditto Zelenskyy.

The question that you should ask yourself is -
Why are YOU falling for propaganda?

I know what Russia is. I know who Putin is.
They (he) deserve the Lions share of the blame.

That being said, I don’t see how anyone can fanboy Zelenskyy.

He is simply Putin light.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38244 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:19 am to
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Ahh..gotcha. So you acknowledge our involvement, but just think it was an illegitimate government that needed to be overthrown.



Of course we were involved. Did you have a problem with our involvement in the 80's in places like Eastern Germany and Poland when they were under in/direct control of the USSR? You know, back when your type checked under your bed for Commies?

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an illegitimate government that needed to be overthrown.


Well, it was. It was an illegitmate minority imposing control over the majority. Care to address any of the facts I stated in support of it?

This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:23 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:20 am to
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That being said, I don’t see how anyone can fanboy Zelenskyy.

He is simply Putin light.


He's gonna make a great US puppet with all those Biden bucks.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38244 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:22 am to
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I know what Russia is. I know who Putin is.
They (he) deserve the Lions share of the blame.

That being said, I don’t see how anyone can fanboy Zelenskyy.

He is simply Putin light.


Let's see, Zelensky has been in elected office for 3 years. Putin has exerted dictatorial control over the largest country in the world for 20+ by killing political opponents and dissidents. Yea, basically the same thing. Maybe let's wait and see what Ukraine does next election.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:25 am to
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Overthrow implies it was a legitimate state of affairs over there under Yanukovych.


It wasn’t. He was installed by Putin.

Kind of like Zalenskyy was installed by Obama.

The big difference is that one of them is “pro-Western.”

Why wouldn’t he be? He sure as frick loves our cash.

I would prefer Zalenskyy, but let’s not act like he is a choir boy. He is a major shitbag as well.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:25 am to
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:27 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:26 am to
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Yea, basically the same thing.


Only I didn’t equate them, so...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:26 am to
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Maybe let's wait and see what Ukraine does next election.


They'll do what we tell them to do which is why we are buying influence with taxpayer dollars we don't have.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32826 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:29 am to
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This video is interesting. The Russians claimed an initial explosion detonated flammables, but there are two simultaneous explosions here (with smoke already present from previous fires).


Don’t the Russians know better than smoking around flammables? Completely preventable!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:33 am to
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Learn to read. This literally makes no sense.


I’m sorry to read that you feel that way.

That being said, I include comprehension as part of the reading dynamic, so my apologies if I assumed too much.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38244 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:33 am to
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Kind of like Zalenskyy was installed by Obama.


Lmao. Trump was president when Zelensky was elected. You are a walking L. How do you remember to breathe.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:36 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44658 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:34 am to
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Trump was president when Zelensky was elected.


This is irrelevant to what I posted.

This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:35 am
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11915 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:37 am to
I think something is lost in the translation here (the weasel?) but the Ukrainians definitely got into that same troll spirit here:

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