re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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If knowing that Qanon was a hoax from the start, that believing the Earth is not flat, and that knowing Putin is an enemy of America, makes me left-leaning in your delusional world, I am fine with that.

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Dichotomous thinking. One of the more common cognitive distortions employed by radicals.

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But with setbacks in Donetsk and Luhansk, the appalling realization is sinking in that this is likely to be a very bloody war, lasting years. The country's coastline is in the invaders' hands and its ports are blockaded. A serious economic crisis is looming in Ukraine and more widely. While Ukraine is not winning, it is losing.

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The Ukraine war shows that the West's dominance is coming to an end as China rises to superpower status in partnership with Russia at one of the most significant inflection points in centuries, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair said.

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How is that trailer park you live in?

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When the media does its job correctly, the populists get angry. They are doing a great job apparently.

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What do the Ukrainians get if they seek peace negotiations right now? Think it through.

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A whole lot less money from the Biden administration. You think it through. You think Zelensky gives a frick about the land Russia has begun the process of annexing?

You people are beyond help.

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There's arguably going to be much more money flowing into Ukraine during any negotiated peace, especially as Ukraine ascends into the EU.

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There will not be. All strategic purpose Ukraine served prior to this invasion is gone as a result of what’s been lost.

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So far, you haven't given any reason as to why the Ukrainians should actually negotiate with the Russians right at this moment.

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Do I really need to spell this out for you? For months you’ve been crying about the Russians bombing civilians and now you say the Ukrainians have no reason to negotiate. You never really gave a shite about civilian casualties as we all knew. You just want use their deaths as an excuse to “punish” Russia because you’re convinced they helped orange man.

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Russian gains to relatively small amounts

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Glad we agree that either way it’s over for Ukraine. Better to concede defeat now and salvage what’s left of your population and infrastructure.

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. You never really gave a shite about civilian casualties as we all knew. You just want use their deaths as an excuse to “punish” Russia because you’re convinced they helped orange man.

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So emotional. Let’s try to set a better example for the kids.

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The American and British elites are about to flee to Australia. as soon as this happens, Ukraine will immediately become useless to anyone. That is why right now there is no movement on the fronts there.

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"Hey maybe if I add an emoji they won't think I'm mad!"

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There will not be. All strategic purpose Ukraine served prior to this invasion is gone as a result of what’s been lost.

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Again, there's going to be plenty of reason to invest in Ukraine, especially militarily. Firstly, investing in Ukraine is going to ease the refugee situation in Europe, which is high incentive for investment. Secondly, Ukraine's security will be directly linked to other alliance members, especially with regard to the other Eastern European countries. Thus, again, there is high incentive for investment. Thirdly, generally what occurs when a potential EU member finally ratifies a treaty of ascension into the EU, their capital inflows go up. Romania is a good example, as their economy nearly doubled before their actual ascension in 2007 and has grown 42% since ascension, all the while being in the Eurozone during several crises, including austerity, which limited capital inflows. Much of the talk in Germany now has been about how their austerity wasn't so much an example of fiscal responsibility, but rather just outsourcing much needed state capacity for no real gain. Given what we've seen, I don't expect another long period of austerity in the Eurozone as they've had the last decade.

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For months you’ve been crying about the Russians bombing civilians and now you say the Ukrainians have no reason to negotiate.

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I'm asking you to think about Ukraine as a state entity. All states operate by incentives. If all they gain is some unenforceable guarantees on the part of Russia to stop hurting civilians, that isn't reason enough for Ukraine as a state entity.

Think about this. If Ukraine is losing the war and that loss is inevitable, what security guarantees can they actually gain? Russia has shown they don't care about external security relationships because they, like every state, care about their security concerns over the security concerns of their neighbors. What a negotiated peace right now does is it ensures that neither Russian or Ukrainian security concerns are satisfied. What do you think the long-term result is going to be?

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Glad we agree that either way it’s over for Ukraine. Better to concede defeat now and salvage what’s left of your population and infrastructure.

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Again, it might be better in a vacuum, but we have a long list of Russian bad-faith negotiations. Why should the Ukrainians trust the Russians won't continually seek to guarantee its own security at Ukraine's expense? If Russia is winning this war, what actual incentive do they have to stop it? Your position doesn't make sense from a geopolitical point of view.