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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:22 pm to
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That’s cool. As long as there is a war going on there we are going keep this thread going. Maybe don’t click on it if it bothers you.
You know what? I'm disgusted and sad that Americans advocate for this nonsense. Call me a glutton for punishment for checking on this post. It's silliness.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:27 pm to
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You know what? I'm disgusted and sad that Americans advocate for this nonsense. Call me a glutton for punishment for checking on this post. It's silliness.


It’s more of a cry out for attention in your case
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:40 pm to
Looks like the m270’s are in the action now

LINK
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:58 pm to
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I'm pissed that my federal taxes are a part of this.




I guess the USA should consult you every thing it spends money on.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:15 pm to
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To sum up, the Russians have run out of

1. Modern cruise missiles,
2. New short range ballistics missiles, and
3. Most anti-ship missiles.

Such that they are shooting A2AD strategic range SAM's 'cause that is all they got.??


@TrentTelenko in response to

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Russia Now Firing S-300 Surface-To-Air Missiles At Land Targets In Ukraine: Official
LINK


I doubt they have run out as much as dont want to deplete the supply anymore but yeah
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:27 pm to
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??Residents of the temporarily occupied Kherson region should leave the region, and those who cannot, prepare for hostilities, seek shelter, water and food, – Yurii Sobolevskyi, First Deputy Chairman of the Kherson Regional Council says.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28839 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Now that Ukraine is on a stable war footing, I see no way Russia wins this thing.

I hope so. I also never underestimate the potential outward brutality of a people who don't care at all about the lives and wellbeing of their own. The Russian leadership will sacrifice every Russian.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18452 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Now that Ukraine is on a stable war footing, I see no way Russia wins this thing.



God damn yall are stupid.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42792 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 4:58 pm to
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You know what? I'm disgusted and sad that Americans advocate for this nonsense. Call me a glutton for punishment for checking on this post. It's silliness.

Direct your disgust at Putin and Russia. They started all of this as well as several other wars with their neighbors,
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:17 pm to
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Now that Ukraine is on a stable war footing, I see no way Russia wins this thing.



God damn yall are stupid.


Let's put things in persepctive.
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Over the month of June ???? increased the area of land they control in Ukraine by approximately 1,500 km².

This equates to a total of 19.2% of Ukraine being occupied, a 0.3% increase since the end of May.



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Approximately 3/4ths of that of that 19.2% of Ukrainian territory that Russia controls is made up of Crimea and the pre invasion LPR and DPR. Russia has sustained 40,000 casualties, lost over half of its modernized armor, the flagship of its Black Seas Fleet, and is bankrupting its country to gain control over about 7% of Ukrainian territory. June was Russia's best month and its longest sustained success of the war, and during that time Russia only increased its control in Ukraine by 0.3% and during that time it suffered between 10,000 - 15,000 K/W/C.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:36 pm to
Ukrainian flag returns to Snake Island. Danube- Black Sea Canal Navigation resumes. LINK

Helps but not enough to ship Ukrainian grain/ exports .Serious backlogs here
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:38 pm to
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I doubt they have run out as much as dont want to deplete the supply anymore but yeah



Russia fired over 2100 missiles and rockets into Ukraine as of 5/10/22 and it fired over 400 cruise missiles at Ukraine in June and we do not know how many rockets they fired in May and June. Russia had a large stockpile but with its industry base being crippled by sanctions as well as a global chip shortage are probably some of the reasons why Putin called for a pause in offensive operations. I'm not saying that Russia is out of missiles, but I am saying it is probably safe to say that they have reached a critical level in their guided munitions supply.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16223 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:44 pm to
If it cannot produce even late 20th century cars, how can it produce even late 20th century weapons much less 21st century?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:50 pm to
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?Residents of the temporarily occupied Kherson region should leave the region, and those who cannot, prepare for hostilities, seek shelter, water and food, – Yurii Sobolevskyi, First Deputy Chairman of the Kherson Regional Council says.
The second such request from the Ukrainian government in weeks( I posted a link earlier in which Iryna Vereshchuk made the same plea to residents ). Even flee to Russian held Crimea, for now , since Russia is not allowing escape to Ukrainian held territories. Is this the Southern summer offensive attempt coming soon?


Kherson will probably become rubble even if the Russians retreat. We've seen their work.


Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:50 pm to
Looks like those are training pics from the UK.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:17 pm to
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If it cannot produce even late 20th century cars, how can it produce even late 20th century weapons much less 21st century?



The USSR and the RF prioritized the military over the civilian sector. It sent its best engineers into the military production sector. If Russia had not stolen most of the money meant of the Su-57 it would have hundreds of 5th generation fighters just like the USA. Even with corruption if it had a steady supply of reliable of computer chips then it could continue to produce modern weapons. Of course Russia even then the USSR's and RF's prioritization of military over commercial sectors would still bite Russia in the arse. The inaccuracy of its missiles in not due to the missiles. It's due to the inaccuracy of the GLONASS satellite navigation system they use. The GLONASS started out as a military project, but due to budget issues it was deprioritized and shifted to Roscosmos whose lack of funding and R&D has kept it using spacecraft based on 1960s technology to launch ppl into space. As a result, the GLOSNASS is so inaccurate that Russian pilots are duct taping western GPS systems to their aircraft.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16223 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:19 pm to
IMO that counteroffensive has already begun at least weeks ago. Ukraine is up against heavily fortified and dug in Russian military, much like it took months for Russia to finally find a weak spot at Popansa in the East.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:20 pm to
Look at that map. America, frick yeah. Lost territory. I remember when America won a war. It was before I was born and read it in a history book. Let’s invade Afghanistan next. Oh yeah, we did that.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:43 pm to
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Ukraine is up against heavily fortified and dug in Russian military, much like it took months for Russia to finally find a weak spot at Popansa in the East.


When can we start saying the Southern flank is collapsing ad nauseum?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:51 pm to
You will lose. - Russia
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