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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:02 pm to TigerMan327
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:02 pm to TigerMan327
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When did the Jews get involved in this war?
I'm confused about this point as well. And despite decades of Russian rhetoric about Nazism (since WW2) I've never been impressed with the Russian people really treating their own Jewish people very well.
A lot of the rhetoric being used about this war makes very little sense to me.
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:02 pm to OMLandshark
I am not getting on any high horse on that. We didn’t do much of anything either. we could have saved millions without much effort but had bigger priorities
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:03 pm to molsusports
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:05 pm to TutHillTiger
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:09 pm to OMLandshark
What year is this?
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:11 pm to notiger1997
Zelenskyy being a puppet for the NWO from his first day in office and helping impeach Trump who had actually been a good ally to Ukraine (remember the first Russian invasion was during Obama / Biden - why would a Ukrainian President then NOT help Trump against the accusations of "blackmail" when Trump was the one who gave them tank busting missiles form his first month in office in 2017? Remember that "Obama game them blankets" and Trump gave them Javelins to prevent further Russian incursion into Ukraine. On what planet would a political newbie like Zelenskyy then come in and intentionally NOT help Trump who had been so helpful to Ukraine? That's dirty AF.) for starters. Zelenskyy was following orders from high up to not throw Trump a life line against those ginned up charges which led to his ridiculous impeachment. And then what happens as soon as the puppet Biden is in the White House? Why - Russia invades Ukraine AGAIN! How does that happen?!? Just a coincidence I'm sure.
The collusion between a secretly deep state Trump staffer and the NWO to install Zelenskyy and keep the honest / clean Klitschko out of big time Ukrainian politics, for another. Zelenskyy was clearly tapped by the highest powers there are, and he came out of nowhere like Macron did. The recorded conversations have been leaked - why was our CIA meddling in Ukrainian politics and working diligently to keep clean Ukrainian pols out and put corruptible ones in? If only our CIA and the cabal hadn't locked away Julian Assange and destroyed Wikileaks we'd likely know so many of these things. Zelenskyy is now suddenly not a middling comedic actor, he now suddenly is extremely wealthy with real estate holdings around the world and is certain to win a Nobel Prize.
The 40+ secret biolabs that were (for some reason) given to Ukraine and not a more stable / sophisticated country like Switzerland or Germany as another and that has been lied about / hidden / distorted by all the usual suspects (US Govt, MSM, NATO, WHO, etc).
Ukraine is the NWO "catch all" where so many of their dirty secrets are hidden and executed.
The collusion between a secretly deep state Trump staffer and the NWO to install Zelenskyy and keep the honest / clean Klitschko out of big time Ukrainian politics, for another. Zelenskyy was clearly tapped by the highest powers there are, and he came out of nowhere like Macron did. The recorded conversations have been leaked - why was our CIA meddling in Ukrainian politics and working diligently to keep clean Ukrainian pols out and put corruptible ones in? If only our CIA and the cabal hadn't locked away Julian Assange and destroyed Wikileaks we'd likely know so many of these things. Zelenskyy is now suddenly not a middling comedic actor, he now suddenly is extremely wealthy with real estate holdings around the world and is certain to win a Nobel Prize.
The 40+ secret biolabs that were (for some reason) given to Ukraine and not a more stable / sophisticated country like Switzerland or Germany as another and that has been lied about / hidden / distorted by all the usual suspects (US Govt, MSM, NATO, WHO, etc).
Ukraine is the NWO "catch all" where so many of their dirty secrets are hidden and executed.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:13 pm to TigerMan327
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:16 pm to SirWinston
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deep state
God I hate this phrase.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:18 pm to SirWinston
What if I told you those “bio labs” weren’t a secret?
Also the way everyone jumps from
“Biolab” to “biological weapon manufacturer” is quite comical.
Also the way everyone jumps from
“Biolab” to “biological weapon manufacturer” is quite comical.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Dead on. If you question the narrative, you're "pro Russia."
When you discuss Russia snd use the pronoun “we” you are also pro Russia.
And what is the narrative you speak about?
If you believe Russia has the right to invade Ukraine, kill thousands, and destroy cities block by block then you ‘d be pro Russia too.
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Its impossible argue with that level of dysfunction, but I think that's why they do it.
You can argue all day long about what defines a win, which side is winning, or who is going to be the eventual winner; however, if you believe Russia is in the right and needs to be invading Ukraine then it’s not the pro Ukranians who are dysfunctional.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:22 pm to Hulkklogan
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God I hate this phrase.
The MSM and popular culture is great at demonizing things like this. Look at how you address ZERO of the points I make in my post and go directly to rolling your eyes at my use of a phrase and then dismissing my entire post. Just like a good sheep!
Do you really believe there ISN'T a "deep state"? Why has Julian Assange been slowly murdered before our eyes by first world "democratic" governments with ZERO due process for the past EIGHT years if there is no "Deep state"?
Why are the January 6th protesters still locked in solitary confinement in and around Washington DC with no due process if there is no "Deep state"?
Why have we not learned a single thing about the Vegas shooter who murdered over 50 Americans from a modern hotel complex with security cameras everywhere if there is no "Deep state"
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:26 pm to OMLandshark
Let's talk about more relevant things.
Like when the Russians invaded Ukraine. Killed millions of people in gulags. Starved millions more in Ukraine alone.
Later the Soviet Union engaged in a large numbers of proxy wars with the United States in countries from Asia to the America's. That alone gives the lie to Russian rhetoric about not escalating or risking conflict with the United States because it might end civilization. This is something they've done many times in reverse.
More recently both the United States and Russia agreed to guarantee non aggression against Ukraine in exchange for them giving up their nuclear arsenal. Making the Russian invasion of Ukraine and attempts to annex it piece by piece an enormously important thing to stop because it would demonstrate every country in the world with potentially aggressive neighbors needs to develop and maintain a nuclear arsenal. Protecting Ukraine is not only living up to American (and Russian) promises it is also about reducing the number and likelihood of nuclear conflicts in the future.
No one should be sanguine about proxy wars with Russia but Putin has made clear his desire to claim formerly occupied countries as Russian to rebuild the Soviet empire. This isn't going away if we ignore it like Ukraine in 2014 or his other Eastern European adventures over the last decades.
The greatest irony about the Russian rhetoric is the Russians are behaving very similarly to Germany prior to World War2. That isn't something that is going away. The very best option for the west to stop this is now through a proxy war. Not because any conflict with Russia is desirable, because they keep using military force to expand their borders.
Like when the Russians invaded Ukraine. Killed millions of people in gulags. Starved millions more in Ukraine alone.
Later the Soviet Union engaged in a large numbers of proxy wars with the United States in countries from Asia to the America's. That alone gives the lie to Russian rhetoric about not escalating or risking conflict with the United States because it might end civilization. This is something they've done many times in reverse.
More recently both the United States and Russia agreed to guarantee non aggression against Ukraine in exchange for them giving up their nuclear arsenal. Making the Russian invasion of Ukraine and attempts to annex it piece by piece an enormously important thing to stop because it would demonstrate every country in the world with potentially aggressive neighbors needs to develop and maintain a nuclear arsenal. Protecting Ukraine is not only living up to American (and Russian) promises it is also about reducing the number and likelihood of nuclear conflicts in the future.
No one should be sanguine about proxy wars with Russia but Putin has made clear his desire to claim formerly occupied countries as Russian to rebuild the Soviet empire. This isn't going away if we ignore it like Ukraine in 2014 or his other Eastern European adventures over the last decades.
The greatest irony about the Russian rhetoric is the Russians are behaving very similarly to Germany prior to World War2. That isn't something that is going away. The very best option for the west to stop this is now through a proxy war. Not because any conflict with Russia is desirable, because they keep using military force to expand their borders.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:27 pm to doubleb
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When you discuss Russia snd use the pronoun “we” you are also pro Russia.
I mean, the idioocy gets worse as the thread drags on. However, "We" who don't pretend to know whats going on via the media certainly aren't the biased ones.
You'll find exactly what you are looking for, truth be damned.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:29 pm to molsusports
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The greatest irony about the Russian rhetoric is the Russians are behaving very similarly to Germany prior to World War2. That isn't something that is going away.
OMG they can't even capture Kiev. Why are you acting as if they are 1930's Germany romping through all of Europe like a hot knife through butter? Russia is far less of a threat to the USA than the Democrat party driving up gas to $7 per gallon, sabotaging our food supplies, mandating non proven vaccines for fricking BABIES, and the WHO / Klaus Schwab krewe doing what they are doing to end the autonomy of Western countries and create a "Great Reset".
And before the sheep mock me for bringing up the "Great Reset" - THEY HAVE A frickING WEBSITE! IT'S A REAL THING!
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I mean, the retardation gets worse as the thread drags on. However, "We" who don't pretend to know whats going on via the media certainly aren't the biased ones.
I don’t need the media to read a pro Russian poster say “we” when he tries to make a point here.
You are merely a troll coming to thread to start crap.
Bring real news are stay out.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:34 pm to molsusports
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:34 pm to OMLandshark
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You don’t arm a regimen of thousands of radicals and think it will pay off.
Well, I have some hard cheese for you. AZOV was responsible for the defense of Mariupol and yes they had all manner of nasty things. While being consumed in the defense of Mariupol (most killed or taken prisoner) they effectively destroyed the Wagner Group (the Pentagon estimates about 6,000 Wager dead in Mariupol.
See! no more Nazis and lots of dead Russians!
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:36 pm to Lakeboy7
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:37 pm to doubleb
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You can argue all day long about what defines a win, which side is winning, or who is going to be the eventual winner; however, if you believe Russia is in the right and needs to be invading Russia then it’s not the pro Ukranians who are dysfunctional.
I get the feeling that the west may be tiring of this war. Reporting now is Ukraine without an abundance of additional help/material, won't be able to continue. And I've seen reporting that Russia is about to declare victory in the east, annex the territory and hold votes from the people to become a part of Russia. We all know these votes are rigged but the net outcome is Russia gets part of their objective. The only counter or response the rest of Ukraine as I see it is for Ukraine to ally with the west with the remaining lands and militarize the hell out of the them. I don't get a lot of good vibes now.
Even Biden has started his petty shite with Zelinsky.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:45 pm to SOSFAN
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There is a big difference between killing a bear to defend yourself and/or your friends and punching a pissed off bear in the nose when you do not have to.
Providing military intelligence along with weapons and ammunition along with economic sanctions is punching a bear in the nose .
Apparently not
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